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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archi....

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2008-07-20 14:07:39
Fidgit
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Thanks for this, Gen :)

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I say it's spinach, and I say the hell with it.
2008-07-20 14:46:55
Francynemarie
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Fantastic!

2008-07-20 15:15:30
Stormsailor1981
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charlotte nc
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done, and sent off to all my e-mail addresses. still haven't received e-mail confirmation yet.

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2008-07-20 15:29:08
Genesis
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Storm, check your spam folder or go back and re-sign (you might have mis-typed the address); emails go out INSTANTLY.

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2008-07-20 15:42:21
Krzelune
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Gen, I will sign it. I don't like suggestion 6 that I pasted below, but realize the difficulty in removing too much of their power. The new govt formal liquidity system will eventually get gamed for political and populace behavior modification purposes. The government should provide an honest, fair playing field for the marketplace to offer the loans, and no more.

6. If it is judged that Congress must provide a formal liquidity system for conforming mortgage loans, defined as loans originated with a 20% cash down payment (no seconds, “carry backs”, or other games permitted), a maximum of 36% TI (“back end” ratio), and a fixed rate of either 15 or 30 years, then Congress should establish via separate legislation a formal government program to provide said loans, separately administered and regulated. Such a program must include felony criminal penalties for any form of fraud in the application and underwriting process and be strictly enforced against all who attempt to game the system, including Borrowers, Realtors, Appraisers, Loan Officers and Banks. Such an explicit government underwriter of loans, operated prudently, would inure to the benefit of the Government and citizens as the coupon thus earned would be at a spread to Treasury debt and provide a net tangible budgetary benefit to the United States.

2008-07-20 15:43:19
Rtfg
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Confirmed, and sent to everybody in my address book. Thanks KD

2008-07-20 15:45:20
Genesis
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Krz, I don't know if we need that sort of backstop or not for mortgage liquidity. But I'm willing to concede that we might, and if it is in fact judged necessary, this is the right way to do it - not bail out Fannie and Freddie.

The Government provided one during The Depression, and it was both sound and helped. 50 years later it was corrupted, but that's a long damn time.


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I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife?
I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects
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2008-07-20 15:47:15
Rknoflach
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Macomb, MI
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I am sending this baby to everyone I know. This is the most important petition I can think of ever being involved in. It may fail, but as Gen says, this is it. Please donate, or attend the protests, and tell everyone you know. We need this!

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2008-07-20 16:20:16
Redfigures
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State of Flux
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Thanks.........done.

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Jack Kirkpatrick: Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash.
2008-07-20 16:49:07
790
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Signed.E-mailing now.Thanks.

2008-07-20 17:06:47
Steved
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Signed and sent out to the mailbox. Thanks KD , you are highly appreciated.

2008-07-20 17:26:13
Acurawsu
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Wow, just wow......another great one from KD!!

Signed, and confirmed. I sent it on to my contacts, here is the e-mail I wrote, feel free to use any part of it when asking friends to sign.

E-mail I sent:

Personally, I hate mass mailings, they are impersonal and usually junk.

This is not.

We have all seen mass e-mails about "boycotting" gas station, in an effort to bring down the price of fuel. This does nothing to address the fundamental reasons behind our huge increase in energy prices.

Please take the time to read the article here, and sign the petition.

Link
or
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archi....

I have already done both.

If we allow Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to be "bailed out" or otherwise nationalized, we will see a permanent and huge increase in our already high energy prices.

It's your choice, we can stop this if we speak up and say NO MORE BULL****! NO MORE BAILOUTS

If we choose to sit by and let it happen, we will get exactly what we deserve.

It's time to write letters, call radio stations, and stand up for ourselves!

Feel free to pass this e-mail around, or (even better) write you own and send this link/petition to your contacts.

If you do nothing, you have absolutely ZERO right to complain about high gas prices, high unemployment, high food prices, and the devaluation of our dollar....because when you were warned, you did nothing.

You decide.



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It is difficult to not marvel at the imagination which was implicit in this gargantuan insanity. If there must be madness something may be said for having it on a heroic scale.
- Galbraith, The Great Crash 1929

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2008-07-20 17:45:40
Scarlet
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MS
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Extremely well done! I have forwarded to all my contacts also, and also to my senators just for another good measure.

thanks for the work and effort!

2008-07-20 18:02:36
Redxxl
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Done...Thanks for all your hard work...and my kids thank you also.

2008-07-20 18:30:42
Luckyputs
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Thanks, now let's see if my contacts can do some forwarding between bong hits.

Seriously, thanks.

Live cheap I say, they have 8-packs of jimmy dean sausages at the 99 cent stores.... http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c245dc2c-5673-....

US food groups plan hefty price rises
By Elizabeth Rigby in London and Hal Weitzman in Chicago

Published: July 20 2008 17:15 | Last updated: July 20 2008 17:15

US food companies are preparing another round of hefty price increases as soaring commodity costs force them to pass on rises to consumers

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Nancy, get in my tummy.

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2008-07-20 18:31:05
Nightowl
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Thanks Gen. Your effort is truely amazing. I wish I could get more of my friends to take an interest in economics and politics. The problem I keep running into is people do not want to cause anything that might devalue their 401k or pension fund. I always tell them they can sit in cash but they never want to. I wish I had a better suggestion so they would be willing to do something.

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“There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right.”-MLK


2008-07-20 18:40:31
Vmooper
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Bailout ville
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Gen, I signed but did not receive the reply message. I re-signed and checked email for accuracy and still, no reply. I will keep looking. I have signed and received response email for every petition to date, with same email address. Might be my email if no one else is having trouble.

Thanks for your efforts as always.

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"If you don't know where you are going, speeding up is not the answer." -Jeff Macke
"If you bail out everyone, nobody gets bailed out." -Jeff Macke
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2008-07-20 18:50:21
Fidgit
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For anyone who's having trouble finding the reply messages, make sure you look thru your WHOLE spam folder - a lot of those who send spam date their messages to make sure they appear at the top of the spam list.

Even tho I received my confirmation message instantly, I had to look for it - it was buried way down deep in my spam folder.

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I say it's spinach, and I say the hell with it.
2008-07-20 18:52:39
Ckuennen
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Signed, confirmed, forwarded to many contacts.

Bravo Gen.

2008-07-20 18:54:59
Genesis
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Its there. The system sends them INSTANTLY, and the only ones I've seen bounce are for addresses that are truly unreachable.

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I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife?
I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects
Darrell Issa has a middle finger and knows how to use it - Me
2008-07-20 18:55:31
Themortgagedude
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Gen, you don't need a seperate government agency. You've got one - HUD. And if it requires that loans not exceed the median for the area that is fine. If you can't come up with a 3% downpayment you don't need to be buying a house. And if you need government assistance for a downpayment a 1500 sq ft 3/2/2 in a decent neighborhood better work for you.

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Since September it's just gotten colder and colder. There's less daylight now, I've noticed too. This can only mean one thing - the sun is going out. In a few more months the Earth will be a dark and lifeless ball of ice.
2008-07-20 19:30:32
Tom_joad
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That was one of the best petitions I have ever read.

2008-07-20 19:32:09
Stormsailor1981
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yeah, the acknowledgement was about 100 items down in my spam folder. i found it about 20 seconds after posting that.

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"one man with courage makes a majority" andrew jackson
2008-07-20 19:35:49
Acgreyhound
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Done. Thank you.

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At what point in the descent into bat**** insanity does it become required that you start arbitrarily capitalizing words in your writing? - JFedak
2008-07-20 19:54:04
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