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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26 
KD^2 
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1191-T....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-07-08 11:50:20
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Mtgspy Posts: 6121 Incept: 2007-10-27 
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Wow, a frontal assault - wonder what woodshedder feels in his ass right now?
---------- It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
2009-07-08 12:01:51
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Glock36 Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-06-03 Banned
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The other night that bull**** artist was discussing the POSITIVE aspects of the U.S. Employment report, as only HE could present and other have failed to do so - it was a riot watching his technology fail at every touch of the screen - and never once mentioned the Birth/Death Model additions.
---------- Black Helicopters Are Like ****roaches, You Never Find Just One Glock36's Law: Murphy Was An Optimist When You Find Yourself In A Hole, Don't Look Out Until You Identify The Type, As It Could Be A Foxhole The Greatest Enemy Of Knowledge Is Not Ignorance, But The Illusion Of Knowledge - Dr. Hawking
2009-07-08 12:13:08
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Bigcat Posts: 1523 Incept: 2008-09-10
Nice, France
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good one. this crap must be stopped
---------- "When the goal shifts to simple survival for the Fed their goals will change drastically and their strategy will adjust accordingly...Like Congress, the Fed will throw its "allies" under the bus when they become a political liability. Look at Mozillo now! " Sushihorn, 07/09
2009-07-08 12:14:31
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Pika-steph Posts: 39200 Incept: 2007-09-11 
^Why I keep^ fighting; so he is not fighting for nothing. Online
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Who Kneal or Woodshedder?
---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org  "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
2009-07-08 12:14:32
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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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Pika: Kneale - he couldn't get his "electroboard" to work. It was funny in a sad way, kinda like watching a retard try to figure out how to work an elevator.
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-07-08 12:15:35
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Pika-steph Posts: 39200 Incept: 2007-09-11
^Why I keep^ fighting; so he is not fighting for nothing. Online
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Oh jeez. I swore of CNBC other than for 8:30 am Rick Santelli data release... That's just sad. Really. ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
2009-07-08 12:17:31
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Themortgagedude Posts: 3930 Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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Isn't Woodshedder someone who posts on this board too? Using another name. I know I've seen his f'n mullet over here.
---------- "These are interesting times. We don't trust the government, we don't trust the legal system, we don't trust the media, and we don't trust each other! We've undermined all authority, and with it, the basis for replacing it! It's like a six-year-old's dream come true!"
2009-07-08 12:19:39
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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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He has an account under that name here. ---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-07-08 12:20:33
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Phantomace Posts: 2184 Incept: 2009-03-16
Las Vegas, NV, and your screen Online
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TMD: He uses a close-up of the face of the guy in Joe-bob's avatar, IIRC. Dunno who the pic is of though, or what the connection. ---------- "That was a little trick I call math. Oops, now I'm not emotionally invested..." - Dilbert The only good thing I have to say about Barney Frank is at least he's not breeding...
2009-07-08 12:22:18
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Pika-steph Posts: 39200 Incept: 2007-09-11
^Why I keep^ fighting; so he is not fighting for nothing. Online
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You're mixing him up with Joe-bob, TMD. They are NOT the same person. They just happen to use the same avatar picture.
---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
2009-07-08 12:22:32
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Themortgagedude Posts: 3930 Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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I think its a double reverse sock puppet.
---------- "These are interesting times. We don't trust the government, we don't trust the legal system, we don't trust the media, and we don't trust each other! We've undermined all authority, and with it, the basis for replacing it! It's like a six-year-old's dream come true!"
2009-07-08 12:24:21
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Markjw Posts: 106 Incept: 2008-10-01
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"The sad part is that they will probably find people who are dumb enough to get screwed not once, but twice,... " Maybe they can get a hold of Madoff's client list?
2009-07-08 12:36:06
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Curbyourrisk Posts: 1891 Incept: 2008-08-19 Long Island, New York
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Gen: You mention the credit recession vs. the inventory recession, as you have in the past. Based on the business I am in....import/export, we see balance sheets of thousnads of private companies every year. I for one am a big believer that we are currently facing BOTH tyoes of recessions simultaneously, which in turn will make this recession even worse, just about gauranteeing a depression. Although the management at my Japanese owned company do not see it my way, this scenario is nothing they are not used to already. What is your take on the idea of facing both recessions at the same time? And if so....how does it effect the recovery (well...eventual recovery)? ---------- Hopium: hope filled delirium preached by the White House and Swallowed whole by the American Sheeple. Why is Franklin Raines a free man? "We saved the world from disaster" - Ben Bernanke - Jackson Hole 08/21/2009 
2009-07-08 13:14:59
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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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A credit recession IS an inventory recession with credit on top. ---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-07-08 13:15:43
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Wisc-xc Posts: 4828 Incept: 2007-07-14
outside chicago
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Gen, An excellent rebuttal to Wood****ter's bull****. His debating tactic was dishonest from the get go. He took the Ticker out of context, and in hindsight even got that part of his red herring wrong. He owes you a public apology.
2009-07-08 13:18:07
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Sakete Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-04-29 Netherlands
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Great article. I especially like the part about technical analysis and how you talk about putting it on 'context'. Which I completely agree with. I for one like to combine my TA with cycle analysis (for a view of the major-direction, 'north' or 'south':)) and macro-economic conditions (for a broad view of the economy, basically the 'context'). But very nice and methodical rebuttal :) I like people who use their mind to think properly! Keep up the great work Karl! ---------- Time is the most important!
2009-07-08 13:29:11
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Dji Posts: 720 Incept: 2009-04-21
Fleming Island
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wonder if wood****ter is doubling down for more pain? personally I am enjoying watching the ICE melt the last few days. ---------- What goes up Must come Down- Alan Parsons Project THE TRUTH HURTS! -Dji Last modified:
2009-07-08 13:33:44 by dji
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Marketman1012 Posts: 33 Incept: 2009-04-25 NY
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Hey Karl, I was a little confused of your perspective on the SPX You're looking for a move down to fib levels, then a bounce to the neckline? Commodities look really dead too, i think that just adds more validation to your thesis. They probably had the same leverage game as stocks.
2009-07-08 13:47:56
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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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Market, I'm actually following a channel right now - if you watch the nightlies (you don't have a gold star :)) you'd have seen that for the last few days. When it violates that will mark the time of the correction. On TIME the best fit for this is around the 14th, but those are crayon markers, not bright lines. It would be unusual but not unheard of for it to come this early (e.g. today.) ---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-07-08 13:49:40
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Robert17 Posts: 70 Incept: 2009-03-15 Judsonia, Arkansas
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Karl, where do you access information on the NYSE credit and margin debt table?
2009-07-08 14:01:20
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Sakete Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-04-29 Netherlands
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Speaking from a cyclical perspective, a significant low shouldn't be formed until somewhere between early to mid august. A 22-week intermediate-term cyclical low will probably be placed somewhere within that timeframe. Until then stay short, but when you get close to that period, start dancing close to the exits... Disclaimer: there's always the possibility that another scenario might play out. ---------- Time is the most important!
2009-07-08 14:10:50
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Sewerduck Posts: 121 Incept: 2009-03-18 Norman, OK
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What do you make of the explosive bond action today? Makes me think the market "bounce" at the end of the day is BS.
2009-07-08 18:42:39
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Quik49 Posts: 2297 Incept: 2007-12-11
out yonderway
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Now I get it...all this talk about a woodshedder...thought it was something to do with Bernak's ass or something.....thats what I get for going to Montana fishing. Nice mullet....lol, lordy, I wonder what that guys account looks like now...excellent salvo KD! ---------- Potter's not selling, he's buying;
2009-07-08 19:30:46
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Ponzi_unit Posts: 4439 Incept: 2007-09-05
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I'm surprised at the mention of 20 percent short. On the 1-10 Genesis scale is that just shy of shorting the phone book? Add: Sakete, come to the technical analysis forum any time and share the cycle stuff if you care to. I have August 4th as a cycle low but only in my most bearish projection. Last modified:
2009-07-08 20:42:20 by ponzi_unit
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