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Genesis Posts: 71359 Incept: 2007-06-26 
KD^2 
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/626-To....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2008-10-23 23:16:43
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Emdeplam Posts: 1417 Incept: 2008-01-10 
Germany
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Awesome, scary, but incredibly well said
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2008-10-23 23:24:08
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Shado Posts: 197 Incept: 2007-07-08 
Idaho
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Gen, Shelby didn't vote (yes) for the bill...he was one of the opponents that did speak out against it. Not saying he's innocent, but not entirely guilty as accused either.
2008-10-23 23:27:24
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Jstanley01 Posts: 2563 Incept: 2008-07-30
San Antonio, Texas
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"We are now into the phase of dynamic instability. This phase ends in structural failure." http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/ak.... ---------- ...so in short, my fellow Texans, we must secede. "For the children..." --Me
2008-10-23 23:31:34
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Cheapbastud Posts: 659 Incept: 2007-10-09
F is for FAIL
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we are going to ****ing black hole. ****.
2008-10-23 23:31:55
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Danimal Posts: 669 Incept: 2007-08-27
-FREEDOM AINT FREE- Online
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The old if you owe the bank 1 million then they own you but if you owe the bank 1 trillion you own them. The Government is owned by AIG and all the Kings men won't put this one down. They are owned.
---------- "Are you going to do something or just stand there and Bleed"?
2008-10-23 23:33:25
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Riceball Posts: 1229 Incept: 2008-03-20 Palo Alto, CA
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Very well written. Is there anyway we can help get this piece onto MSM? Or MSM will be scared ****less to publish it?
2008-10-23 23:38:43
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Wthef Posts: 620 Incept: 2008-02-25
philadelphia
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this could be the scariest ticker i have read. its sad and scary what the new year will look like. people still have no clue about whats going on, no matter how loud the train is getting people are still playing on the tracks. i like to think my family is prepared for a ****storm thats about to hit us. god help the rest
---------- "I had to look at her today and sat there staring at her bronze naked body laying in the sun, a flaming red candle in her hand she took me in. Her figure consumed me 36-32-34 and said "take me" I stumbled forward as I engaged her stare and she pulled me down towards her. I ripped off my shirt and dropped my pants, we f
2008-10-23 23:40:18
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Mike18xx Posts: 617 Incept: 2008-09-27 Banned
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<shudder> I think I'm going to go buy a new winter coat while it's still warm and my money is still good.
2008-10-23 23:57:05
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Snooze Posts: 1652 Incept: 2007-07-09
florida
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This Ticker is, without a doubt, the best illustration of your complete mastery of this subject. I know it is of no comfort to you to receive such praise; however your dogged determiniation to right this wrong is worthy of recognition and respect for your unfailing efforts. Thank you. My reps are now going to get an earfull from me as well as a copy of this "Redress of Grievances" ---------- We're on a journey - and we don't know it - back to a nation of communities where your character really matters, and where character rests on whether your deeds comport with truthfulness......KUNSTLER
2008-10-24 00:15:57
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Lumpeninvestor Posts: 882 Incept: 2007-10-16
98072, USSA Online
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So is FDLXX still a good holding, or have the fraudsters managed to throw that in to question as well?
2008-10-24 00:19:01
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Garyk Posts: 378 Incept: 2008-08-13
Oklahoma
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That is the most compelling argument for converting money into anything that I may be able to use someday right NOW. That is if I can get my money...
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2008-10-24 00:19:22
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Csgreen Posts: 201 Incept: 2008-02-25
TX
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Explain how this doen't end in global debt repudiation and reset, martial law, a new currency, widespread war and loss of life.
2008-10-24 00:22:36
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Garyk Posts: 378 Incept: 2008-08-13
Oklahoma
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Does anybody believe that physical cash will have value down the road? I mean as opposed to electronic money. I need someone to lay out a plan for how I can safeguard my family from this debacle. Anyone? ----------
2008-10-24 00:27:44
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Blackswan Posts: 3601 Incept: 2007-11-06
Ponzi Roller Coaster Online
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Nice summary. You did not mention GE. They are testing the Fed window. Something about needing $200B. I guess the Lehman and Wamu auctions went well. God we are so screwed. I will send this around.
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2008-10-24 00:34:44
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Margincalltime Posts: 830 Incept: 2008-04-01
NJ
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Ok, so here's my question(s). Our govt obviously will go to any length necessary to prolong this charade, despite the law of unintended consequences, such as guaranteeing one instrument only to the detriment of another, then guaranteeing that one etc. Clearly this could lead to a dislocation in the very near term. The question is longer term, beyond a few months. Are others willing/able to go down this same path, such as Europe, Asia, LatAm? If so, won't that in effect become the stabilization force for the global market, as currencies are priced in relative terms? What I'm getting at here is are we expecting a temporary spike in the long-end of the curve, only to find yields then compress at a faster rate as deflationary forces take hold globally? Or are we supposed to be expecting permanent (as in more than a year or more) higher yields as a result of our neverending bailouts and that is specific to the US?
2008-10-24 00:36:08
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Bluebird Posts: 523 Incept: 2008-05-02
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This is the scariest ticker I have ever read. It sounds like my mutual fund of T-bills contains 'wallpaper'. I might as well redeem this fund, pay the penalty and taxes, and hope I can get the cash out now before the big crash. Thanks KD, appreciate all your time alerting us to the fraud in this government.
2008-10-24 00:38:07
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Anti Posts: 1286 Incept: 2007-10-09
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This explains why my Reserve Treasury Only fund where my broker parked excess cash from my account was frozen last month. Fortunately for me the money was eventually delivered.
---------- Health is better than health insurance http://gerson.org/ Over the past 60 years, thousands of people have used the Gerson Therapy to recover from so-called “incurable” diseases such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease and arthritis.
2008-10-24 00:38:55
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Allclear Posts: 4260 Incept: 2007-09-18
Online
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Excellent article Gen. Sent that one out to all the family and neighbors...the ones who care. Well, I would imagine its US and against them. And that means bringing them to justice one way or another. Obviously, the "government" and its wonderful institutions will not dare tackle this wholeheartedly, as compared to say, some really angry people. Unfortunately, if we enter a hard depression, it is unsure if and when the system will be changed for the better, and whether justice will ever be served. But, justice must be served. And it will be best served if ALL incumbents are voted out this time around, so we have somewhat fresh minds to install unbiased justice. I, for one, am not going to sit through 5 to 10 years of faux gov investigations, backroom deals, soft pedaling of criminal activity and more of the same secretive proceedings. It should be made loud and clear that they can no longer toss us a bone to appease us. ---------- Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view...Obi-Wan
2008-10-24 00:54:48
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Susie0884 Posts: 58 Incept: 2008-03-09 Nevada
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GaryK: To answer your question about your family. To avoid reinventing the wheel, I would just refer you to this site to take care of the basics: http://www.providentliving.org/channel/0.... When you have those things taken care of, if you still have time, and means, then you can worry about guns and gold. IMHO, I believe that cash may work for awhile, then it won't. Then gold or silver may work for awhile, but then they won't because no one in their right minds will want to trade every day necessities for stuff that they can't eat or save lives with.
2008-10-24 00:56:25
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Jumpman Posts: 146 Incept: 2007-09-06
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KD you are seriously kickin ass lately. I mean you are truly doing some top quality ****. We need to mobilize and get this **** everywhere. I only see 2 problems... 1. The majority of Americans are ignorant morons incapable of comprehending anything besides football and American Idol. 2. The pigmen are corrupt and the congress****s are corrupt. I gotta be honest, at some point I'm kinda hoping for a new Revolution. You know the type in which this country was formed.
2008-10-24 01:00:13
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Laura Posts: 3153 Incept: 2008-05-05
Florida Space Coast
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Anti u reserve treasury fund was f*king FROZEN!?! U sure it wasn't just a lock to liquidate to another fund of 30-60 days? My vanguard clamps on certain movements for 60 days. If not, I'm gonna take the tax/penalty hit and walk with USD's in my pocket. I didn't ditch mutuals and bonds this year to die in money market funds. ---------- Karl's just a shill for Big Math. 1LumpSum Honey, where's the AK ? Tyler Durden My Ford focus can get me from point A to point B just as good Tigger's Cadillac. And my back door window is not broken. Mliu
2008-10-24 01:16:14
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Mm^^ Posts: 2330 Incept: 2008-10-01
Gone, Baby, Gone
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I think it's game over and the lady sings the blues........ Everybody here has petitioned the gummit, and were ignored, ridiculed, and talked down to like a bunch of step-children. They are ALL either incompetent or thieves and traitors. I got out my cash, but have no idea what to buy. I'm guessing gold is going much higher, so I'm buying all in tomorrow. I think the recent US$ spike is manipulated, and gold is manipulated down just until the bastards get what they want......If somebody is naked shorting T-Bills (apparently), then the fix is in, right? They will short, and if the US goes BK, they never have to cover, right? (this is the way it works with equities) ---------- I always leave cookies.
2008-10-24 01:46:59
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Joe-bob Posts: 1799 Incept: 2007-09-18
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GaryK To put the answer even MORE simply, can you think of anything you'll need in the next year or so? Might want to have it now. If nothing particularly bad happens, you'll just end up using it anyway. ---------- écrasez l'infâme -Voltaire To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is barbarity. —Robespierre "The foundation of their institutions must be broken up and relaid, or all our blood and treasure have been spent in vain" - Thaddeus Stevens
2008-10-24 01:48:54
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Mike18xx Posts: 617 Incept: 2008-09-27 Banned
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> You did not mention GE. They are testing the Fed window. Something about needing $200B. Yikes. Bye-bye Buffet....maybe. I remember Karl's "Your turn to step up to the plate" video directed at Buffet which mentioned Buffet's S&P futures play that could bankrupt his company. Anyone know how far down it would have to go?
2008-10-24 02:04:43
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