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Genesis Posts: 71432 Incept: 2007-06-26 
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1386-T....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-08-28 12:12:28
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Sierraboy Posts: 1329 Incept: 2007-06-26 
San Diego, CA
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it can't be said enough - thanks for all you do to keep putting out these commentaries
2009-08-28 12:19:25
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Murf Posts: 2813 Incept: 2007-08-28 
the surf
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Good point linking Fed bailout money to 8k filings. God forbid transparency might cause these agencies and corporate leadership to start following the rules. ---------- The recovery up is losing steam
2009-08-28 12:19:43
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Kab Posts: 629 Incept: 2009-04-02 Colorado
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Oh wow. Wow, oh. Owned. That is all. EDIT: Yeah Murf, the 8K is the linchpin. There's no arguing around that. Last modified:
2009-08-28 12:25:26 by kab
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Widgeon Posts: 6526 Incept: 2007-08-30
OK Online
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But, I thought they were all just "tapping the window" to see how it worked. Remember that "pearl."
2009-08-28 12:25:03
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Ssg263 Posts: 100 Incept: 2009-01-07
NY
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KD you're being very conservative by saying Fed secrecy has gone too far for only a decade. One can make the argument it's been going on 99 years since 7 bankers wrote the Federal Reserve Act in total secrecy.
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2009-08-28 12:30:30 by ssg263
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Nazbuster Posts: 8 Incept: 2008-10-20 Danville, CA
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Excellent observation, Karl. Can u find a sponsor to sue for such 8k disclosures?
2009-08-28 12:36:55
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Thetemplateblog Posts: 60 Incept: 2008-10-21
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Say it ain't so!
---------- ......................................................................... I will keep My Guns, My Freedom, and My Money...You can keep the change!
2009-08-28 12:39:07
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Benjiofsection31 Posts: 74 Incept: 2009-06-01
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With regard to the ClearingHouse beating its chest, it was a waste of their time. The Court already considered the potential prejudice of this with respect to the Term Reports and gave it a big Family Feud Red X.
2009-08-28 12:46:27
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Spigot Posts: 109 Incept: 2009-03-02
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Rotten from the head down to the tail.
2009-08-28 12:59:16
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Sondog Posts: 58 Incept: 2009-05-18
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KD! Way to hit it right on the head. THIS is one for faxing/emailing around. Look folks, please send this to whatever representatives you can.
2009-08-28 13:03:42
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Glock36 Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-06-03 Banned
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Karl, would you consider using this information and filing an Amicus Curiae with the court?
---------- Black Helicopters Are Like ****roaches, You Never Find Just One Glock36's Law: Murphy Was An Optimist When You Find Yourself In A Hole, Don't Look Out Until You Identify The Type, As It Could Be A Foxhole The Greatest Enemy Of Knowledge Is Not Ignorance, But The Illusion Of Knowledge - Dr. Hawking
2009-08-28 13:04:14
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Ghostcrab Posts: 86 Incept: 2009-04-17 Dallas/FtWorth Banned
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It feels like the worm is turning. Very tense. Anyone notice how there was a twist on the volume nob of bad news in the last week or so? A more potent brew it seems. It's odd really, if you think about it. The people are being completely hosed by the bankers, and they justly want information on the Fed's secret Ponzi shenanigans. However, when/if they/we get that information there will be a total loss of confidence (the only thing that supports a fiat checkbook republic like ours), and the government/nation/world economy will fail/default/erupt leading to... (fill in the blank) So. Where does it go? Damned if we do find out, and surely damned if we don't stop the Fed gone wild. Tick Tock How much longer. I can't imagine much. Something has got to give?... I wonder how many banks go under today? Very tense. When is the FOIA scheduled for release by court order? August 31st, Monday, right? ---------- "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." - James Madison Last modified:
2009-08-28 13:08:08 by ghostcrab
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Marketdeception Posts: 4006 Incept: 2007-08-31
Lancaster, NY
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I thought they had five days, which would be Tuesday?
2009-08-28 13:23:20
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Kab Posts: 629 Incept: 2009-04-02 Colorado
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Yes, and it was issued on Monday.
2009-08-28 13:29:56
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Blurtman Posts: 80 Incept: 2009-01-24
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It's not the discovery of the lie, per se, it's the fear about what the next person might do now that the lie has become an issue. Classic Ponzi scheme. Everybody is happy to make money being the next greater fool when there are more fools lined up to be next, but nobody wants to be the last fool in the line. The whole system is bull**** if everybody believes it is bull****. It's not bull**** even if it really is bull**** if everyone believes it is not bull****.
2009-08-28 13:45:45
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Statusquojoe Posts: 2397 Incept: 2008-11-20
Land of the fees Home of the slaves.
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Yup we can add racketeering charges to all the pump monkeys, Keynesian economists, and fraud enablers from the beltway to Wall Street. They could care less about mainstreet, seems we are just useless consumers to them. See how often the MSM refers to sovereign people, flesh and blood with souls as taxpayers instead of citizens. That would be an interesting statistic.
---------- "In short, you are the definition of moral hazard." Senator Bunning to Bernanke
2009-08-28 13:54:09
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Drake Posts: 939 Incept: 2007-07-27
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Bravo!
---------- The wise are aware of their treasure, while fools follow their vanity. Reality is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of ugly facts!
2009-08-28 14:02:49
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Patentleathershoes Posts: 7642 Incept: 2007-09-13
Looking forward to PB&J time!
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Quote:Amicus Curiae Um yes. What a great idea!!
2009-08-28 14:17:37
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Enjoythemusic Posts: 98 Incept: 2008-12-08 Worldwide Banned
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Karl, GREAT work! For those who want to search the SEC filings, here is the starting point. You can then define the search for 8-k... www.sec.gov/edgar/searchedgar/companysearch.html
2009-08-28 14:23:30
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Ihsmta Posts: 131 Incept: 2008-04-10 Midwest, USA
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Whenever Karl hits a lick like he did today, I print off a copy of The Ticker and mail to my local Federal Reserve Bank president. Also, I send a copy to the chairpersons of the advisory committees who appear (in our area anyway)to be normal business people. Earlier this year I talked to a local small town banker who is on one of the local Fed advosory committees. He said that the committee members have been asking some rather pointed questions and that their Fed president got rather defensive. I do think they are taking notice and feel the heat. ---------- "The word 'experienced' often refers to someone who's gotten away with doing the wrong thing more frequently than you have." Laurence Gonzales - Deep Survival
2009-08-28 14:34:43
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Gwesten Posts: 496 Incept: 2007-07-04
Gulf Coast, AL
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Counter-parties-GoldFed. Great work, Karl. I have run out of superlatives.
2009-08-28 14:35:37
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Fortune Posts: 1455 Incept: 2008-04-21 A deep dark place...scary
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We realize these guys (the financial oligarchy) are like the Taliban, right? Despicable but very very determined and are absolutely intent on going right to the wall without stopping and taking as many people down with them as they can, rules be damned. They are not going to stop unless removed. That's what we're dealing with.
---------- It's a toss up. It is the Rule of Law that transforms assets into money: Martin Armstrong Math IS: Karl Denninger
2009-08-28 14:43:54
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Glock36 Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-06-03 Banned
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What am I missing here? > U.S. Government Branches/Agencies - What laws? > Politicians - What laws? > Federal Reserve - What laws? > Fed Officials - What laws? > Banks - What laws? > Bankers - What laws? > Wall Street Firms - What laws? > Company Executives - What laws? > State Governments - What laws? > State Politicians - What laws? > Etc... > Populace - "You Must Be Law Abiding Citizens" - "You Must Operate Within The Law" "Lawlessness Will Not Be Tolerated" F__KING BULL****! ---------- Black Helicopters Are Like ****roaches, You Never Find Just One Glock36's Law: Murphy Was An Optimist When You Find Yourself In A Hole, Don't Look Out Until You Identify The Type, As It Could Be A Foxhole The Greatest Enemy Of Knowledge Is Not Ignorance, But The Illusion Of Knowledge - Dr. Hawking
2009-08-28 14:55:11
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Glock36 Posts: 327 Incept: 2009-06-03 Banned
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---------- Black Helicopters Are Like ****roaches, You Never Find Just One Glock36's Law: Murphy Was An Optimist When You Find Yourself In A Hole, Don't Look Out Until You Identify The Type, As It Could Be A Foxhole The Greatest Enemy Of Knowledge Is Not Ignorance, But The Illusion Of Knowledge - Dr. Hawking
2009-08-28 15:05:45
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