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Genesis Posts: 66463 Incept: 2007-06-26 
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http://market-ticker.denninger.net/2008/....
---------- I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife? I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects Darrell Issa has a middle finger and knows how to use it - Me 2008-04-27 18:05:27
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X5920014 Posts: 50 Incept: 2007-07-27
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I tend to agree with all of this...however...if they were aware...what were their goals ? all the Banks looks worse than they were...and the Fed and Greenspan role should be to help the banks if not us... The more I try to find a reason...the less I understand... some ideas ? Thanks for your site 2008-04-27 19:08:01
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Maple Posts: 4091 Incept: 2007-09-03 
Southern California
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Learah should be King Lear or David Lereah 2008-04-27 19:35:57
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Genesis Posts: 66463 Incept: 2007-06-26
Royal Flush!
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Thanks for the catch...
---------- I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife? I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects Darrell Issa has a middle finger and knows how to use it - Me 2008-04-27 19:37:35
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Maple Posts: 4091 Incept: 2007-09-03
Southern California
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Thanks for everything... 2008-04-27 19:40:14
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Burya_rubenstein Posts: 235 Incept: 2007-08-08
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What will a pizza that costs $10 today cost if you wait 45 years and then buy it? What would such a pizza have cost 45 years ago? And how exactly to get 10% interest without the risk of losing some or most of your money? 2008-04-27 20:12:31
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Lemonaid Posts: 3514 Incept: 2008-01-20 
Detroit Metro Online
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20w/50w moving average cross-over swaps between cash and S&P index fund. Haven't you been paying attention?
---------- "There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." Ludwig von Mises 2008-04-27 20:18:31
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Bw8472 Posts: 6446 Incept: 2007-06-28
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Burya, Depends on the rate of inflation, you will only really earn the differece between inflation and 10%, the 10% assumption is unlikely over that timeframe to be attainable. I'd say realistically you'd have to plug in about a 3% at best real growth rate of the pizza money. However there would be some cost of replacing the calories, as well as an opportunity cost from not eating the pizza, say you made a friend with the pizza delivery driver or shared the pizza with a coed who then turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to you, or died eating bad bean salad from bad beans instead of eating the pizza. :) ---------- At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. ~Abraham Lincoln 2008-04-27 20:35:14
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Dirtysouth Posts: 2766 Incept: 2007-09-20
Love Truth Honour ॐ Banned
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Quote:Kondratiev Waves Basis for my tinfoil since day one. Many other folks in his circle theorized the same... I wish they would have published and translated their works as well  He knew the games they played just as well as we do. Yet, no one wants to ****ing listen.As far as the seven year cycle... I read a 1996 article laying out the plans for the mideast invasion and other macro topics by the TriLateral Commision cronies.. Gee, guess who met up in Washington over the weekend to discuss the plans for the next three years... They also stated food/agri is the next bubble. Get it while it's hot! ---------- Forest First...Trees Second Feb 9 ~ Mar 11 ~ Apr 09 ~ May 09 ~ Jun 07 ~ Jul 07 ~ Jul 22 ~ Aug 06 ~ Sep 04 ~ Oct 04 ~ Nov 02 ~ Dec 02 ~ Dec 31 Last modified:
2008-04-27 23:02:18 by dirtysouth
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Eternalblue Posts: 3883 Incept: 2007-08-09
sokali
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considering each of the last two big legs down (aug, jan) started when the nonborrowed deposits also started heading down, but at much smaller amounts, considering we are still stuck at -90B, is it too much to speculate that the next leg down is going to be much uglier than the first two we already saw? ---------- all pullbacks are bear traps 2008-04-28 03:00:09
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Martin Posts: 676 Incept: 2008-01-23
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www.housingpanic.com has a whole bunch on the housing bubble/bust. One of the things mentioned in an anonymous letter points to deliberate lax regulation: snippet: Quote:Upon taking office, President Bush appointed a Texas banking buddy, Donald Powell, to be FDIC Chairman. Mr. Powell ran a small national bank in Texas that came within an eyelash of failure in the early 1990's. Powell had a severe disdain for regulation and regulators and immediately proceeded to gut the staff. He publicly stated that "all of these small community banks could fail and it would make no difference." He implemented the MERIT program, which equated to drive-by examinations. maybe another piece of the puzzle. Thanks for putting all of this together. 2008-04-28 06:29:47
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Ewok Posts: 41 Incept: 2008-02-13 Boston Suspended
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Regarding edits of The White Paper, which I think is an excellent document, the following sentence needs to be changed: This is, effectively(, )what happened in 1931 and transformed what was up until that point (was) a deep recession to turn into what we now call The Great Depression. Here's one possible edit, where the comma after effectively is removed-it's not necessary- and the second was which is clearly a typo. This is effectively what happened in 1931, and transformed what was up to that point, a deep recession, into what we now call The Great Depression. a recession 2008-04-28 08:00:08
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Growngfree Posts: 228 Incept: 2008-03-17
Mid Atlantic
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Another editting suggestion...to Ewok's... "This is effectively what happened in 1931 (remove comma) and it (new subject required) transformed what was, up to that point (a true parenthetical phrase requiring commas), a deep recession into what we now call The Great Depression." Without notation it reads: "This is effectively what happened in 1931 and it transformed what was, up to that point, a deep recession into what we now call The Great Depression." ---------- Hope is never lost 2008-04-28 09:50:23
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Exorcism Posts: 296 Incept: 2007-11-30
Denver Area
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No more Diggs on the ticker?
---------- The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be. -Douglas Adams 2008-04-28 10:11:20
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Genesis Posts: 66463 Incept: 2007-06-26
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Took 'em off as DIGG is extraordinarily slow when there are multiple entries on a page, as there are when you go back to the monthly indices. ---------- I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife? I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects Darrell Issa has a middle finger and knows how to use it - Me 2008-04-28 10:14:40
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Interested Posts: 2515 Incept: 2007-10-07
SC Online
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Another way to look at non-borrowed reserves (also March end data)
2008-04-28 12:21:01
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Bigbuck623 Posts: 486 Incept: 2007-07-23 Baltimore, MD
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Gen - Regarding your statements on the Barrons article.. One of the continuous themes in your posts has been the emergence of a plan / organized approach to running down the dollar. I'd like to agree, it seems more 1984-ish if that "is" the case.. but I can't just accept a conclusion without hard evidence to back it up. I more than agree that Greenspan/Bernanke are both extraordinarily incompetent adherents to their own ideals (Greenspan = AynRand, Bernanke = his own depiction of the Depression). But.. there's a vast difference between incompetent and shrewdly treasonous. What makes you think they're anything other than bumbling morons? 2008-04-28 12:38:20
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Genesis Posts: 66463 Incept: 2007-06-26
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Willful refusal to enforce regulation doesn't mean they intend to kill the dollar, but it does inexorably lead to that result. ---------- I used to play flute; I wonder if I can play a fife? I incite prosecutors to create "Bubba Sausage Parking Lot" projects Darrell Issa has a middle finger and knows how to use it - Me 2008-04-28 13:14:12
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Meatpuddle Posts: 630 Incept: 2007-07-26
Madame Merriweather's Mudhut Malaysia
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Quote:What makes you think they're anything other than bumbling morons? How about well over 100 years of similar activities, organized and carried out with tremendous precision and skill, always leading to the exact same inevitable result (JSP impoverishment and systemic looting of real wealth) to support the elite private banking cartel leech****s? Hard evidence is out there but you must be willing to dig. You should probably start with the history and ownership of the Federal Reserve. On their own web page they admit to the conspiracy by stating that the Fed is not a privately help company, but that its shares (which pay 6%) are wholly owned by the 12 member banks! No mention of how someone can buy said shares nor who owns the member banks (I wonder why, LOL!) Some diligent research will show that ownership of these member banks is exclusively old money dynasties such as the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Morgans, Warburgs, etc. and the Federal Reserve shares are passed down from generation to generation as a birth-right inheritance. Thus, the Federal Reserve is, by any coherent definition, a private banking cartel that makes money on the order of $500B/yr. via interest payments on the debt. Pay particular attention also to the history of JP Morgan and the various financial "crises" that he engineered before the formation of the Federal Reserve to "help convince" America that it really did need a private central bank, although this is expressly forbidden in the Constitution, and was strongly warned against by Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Wilson, Kennedy, and several other presidents and prominent statesmen over the years both prior to and after the formation of the Federal Reserve. Greenspan and Bernanke aren't as incompetent as people believe. They were specifically hired to do certain things and they got them done. Greenspan to blow various asset bubbles and suck JSP in, and Bernanke to manage GD2 and the largest wealth transfer of all time. Honestly, I don't believer that these pigmen are trying to kill the USD, because that would be game over for their shenanigans. Look for a bond collapse and higher rates to SUPPORT the dollar. Also, look for a commodities collapse that will INCREASE inflation. This is bizzarro world and everything that we think we know has been turned upside down. A deflationary bond bust is in the cards mirroring 1931 almost exactly. The only other thing I will add is that a GSE looting operation will also be forthcoming, this is part of the strategy. That mountain of foreclosures will go a long ways towards making the IB's solvent again. I know a lot of people don't like to hear this stuff or think it is too tinfoil, but sometimes you just have to apply logic and a sense of history to see what these rats are up to. ---------- "the idea that you're "entitled" to a 5 or 6 percent 30 year mortgage is horse****, and so is the housing prices that it has created." - Genesis 2008-04-28 15:03:53
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Ponzi_unit Posts: 4155 Incept: 2007-09-05
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I JUST READ THE THREAD OVER AT IMPLODE-EXPLODE-OMETER AND I HAD A REAL LIVE EPIPHANY! SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL IN DELUSIONAL DENIAL AND THE FAT LADY HASN'T HOBBLED UP TO THE STAGE YET! I'M BETTING ON HER GETTING THERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE THEY TAKEN AWAY HER HALF STEP SNACKS! - HEDGIE MODE. Last modified:
2008-04-28 22:16:25 by ponzi_peon
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Coolmama Posts: 350 Incept: 2008-01-27 Gedney Drove End, UK
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'Over in sunny England it is now reported that the banks that take advantage of their bail-out facilities will be kept secret. Forever. Heh Brits - are you going to stand for this, or are you going to decide instead that all banks over there are insolvent and act accordingly?' Well, petitions only work in a democracy so I think we will just have to put up with this as we do with our unelected Prime Minister. People get the government they deserve, don't they? Oh, and isn't very sunny here. 2008-04-30 06:21:43
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