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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/898-Th....

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-03-25 08:14:46
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Logicaloutlaw
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Let's get the show on the road, then.

This Kick The Can game-playing bull**** is tiresome.

I'm ready for some Creative Destruction.

Time to see what the American People are really made of.

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All the money you make will never buy back your soul. - Bob Dylan, Masters Of War


2009-03-25 08:21:06
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Asianbull
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The UK just had a failed auction:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2....

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The root cause of all the world's problems is inflation. The only sound money in the world is commodities.
2009-03-25 08:26:02
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Offshoreman
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Thanks KD.

2009-03-25 08:26:32
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Maddymax
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not sure anymore
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great ticker kd if the bond market starts to fall apart now why wouldnt the stock market fall apart now as opposed to late summer or fall what is your opinion on geithner being canned there are more more blogs saying he may be done then obama will use that opportunity to take over some of the banks

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2009-03-25 08:27:15
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Chumley
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Geithner....

"It just requires will, it is not about ability"

One word to describe our current situation and our "leaders"

FUBAR

2009-03-25 08:29:49
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Otiswild
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Think I'll pick up that bulk flour and sugar at Costco this week :p

ps: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinio....

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It appears that the yard wolves has grown up. Are we finally finished with the colds dead winters?
2009-03-25 08:31:01
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Emb145
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Great Ticker. I think you and Jim Kunstler (this week, see "General") really nail it as to where this is going.

A bad moon rising, indeed.

2009-03-25 08:31:07
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Deepsee100
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Bond auctions on the 26th and 27th too..lets see how they work out.

Dunno why but this reminds of the "Hitler gets a margin call" video ;)

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2009-03-25 08:32:05
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Pika-steph
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While I agree, looks like this rally could go on for months, the problem I have going long is that we could wake up at any point to a bond market dislocation that crushes equities.

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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org

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2009-03-25 08:37:28
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Pika-steph
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Oooh...Rick Santelli is NAILING this. He's saying the Fed will never be able to buy enough fast enough to keep this under control. He's the 'old Rick' today!

He's warning that we are in REAL trouble.

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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

2009-03-25 08:39:31
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Ck_dexter
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I thought we were in for a multi month rally, and maybe still are. But the irony, imho, is that the Fed's actions have hastened the end of it. If they had just stfu we would still be in rally mode. But BB opens his mouth, we get rocket shots, then reality sets in about how desperate the situation is.

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2009-03-25 08:41:44
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Maddymax
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if it was not santelli and faber i would not even watch cnbs these fools point out all the good news for the sheep but not the bad and rick just pointed out how they could have hurt people by not telling the whole story in the past

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2009-03-25 08:41:53
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Stonedog
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Time to stock up on more months supply of food and water... must go to BJs this weekend...

Dammnit Karl, why do you have to be right about all of this!

Seriously, though, thank you for everything...

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2009-03-25 08:44:23
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Drguid
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Great ticker once again. I just wish I had the patience to wait for THE bottom so I can move my pension fund out of cash - it looks like it could be a long wait.

2009-03-25 08:48:39
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Crossthread
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Great Ticker Karl...

I'm trying to understand the buying Long Bond curve, as now I can see what your trying to say..
It's close to "Game Over"...
There is NO,NONE,nadda back-up plan folks!

So in reality, I may, (and other TF members) have roughly 6 months before TSHTF, maybe more or less.. Get your "back-up" plan in high gear, folks..

I hope, sincerly HOPE, I can move Me and My 2 Daughters out into the country, on the other side of the Cape Fear River Bridge, Lord Willing, after I finish harvesting the rest of My garden.And get My broken car fixed, (body parts). I/WE, don't want to be here when things start going downhill...

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They all went to look for "America".
2009-03-25 08:50:36
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Tesla
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Unless some economic numbers actually get a bit positive, I just can't see a long rally here.

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2009-03-25 08:55:44
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Bluebird
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There is a Bloomberg link at the beginning of the Ticker. Bloomberg must have pulled the article?

2009-03-25 08:59:17
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Skipper
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End game in the UK too - a Government Gilt auction has just partially failed. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2.... (sorry Asianbull, missed yours....)

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Reason: Messed up URL, being a newbie.

2009-03-25 09:06:40
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Pauperbear
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Telsa, the banks may report significant earnings due to a steepened curve and a relaxation of M2M prompting a rally. The question to me is will the street buy the BS balance sheet "earnings". That is if you cover the stinking corpse is there still a dead guy in the room? To me the answer is obvious but I'm less than convinced the equity markets will agree initially.

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2009-03-25 09:08:08
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Reza30
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Karl wrote:
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I'm willing to bet it is NOT domestic holders, and is likely foreigners - including perhaps, central banks and their minions (Heeeeelllloooo China!)


Karl, thanks for your analysis. Anything you have smelled out on Russia? Putin has been preaching against the Dollar and the "U.S. hegemony" for a while now. They are rearming to the teeth and asserting themselves again.

Is this the "end game" that China and Russia might be working on? I think what you have pointed out is as much political as it is economic.

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2009-03-25 09:17:22
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Josecitomadera
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Where is the money coming from in this rally that began on March 9? Dougie Kass called it prior and said this would be a generational LOW. Let's see what happens. If this rally has track, then I replant my question again.

WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM?

2009-03-25 09:18:20
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Bubbasixpack
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So ~six months to prepare then.

I wonder what the history books will say about 2009.

2009-03-25 09:23:55
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Nomullet
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It would be a pretty strong message if China sells into this on a dollar for dollar basis.

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2009-03-25 09:25:07
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Perfectstorm
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If that chart is correct it ends the discussion of what mark to market lift will accomplish.

2009-03-25 09:28:10
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