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User Info The Bond Saga: It Gets More Odd in forum [Ticker]
Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1142-T....

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-06-21 00:39:56
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Karefree
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unbelievable - you are like the energizer bunny... you just keep going and going and going...


2009-06-21 00:48:55
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Grf
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Ah, Turner Radio Network. For all your jew-hating, white supremacist needs. Gen, I'd can that entire paragraph. Turner's a kook repeating hearsay. I wouldn't drive a single hit to his site.

2009-06-21 00:50:56
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Rickylc
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if the "fake bonds" were to be swapped for Treasuries, would the expected amount with interest coupons be in the neirghborhood of $164 billion.

Could a lack of market reaction to that amount being announced be due to the fact they are already "sold"?

2009-06-21 00:52:37
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It's called a tangled web being weaved.

I'm not sure what the elites are up to but in the end, if the system collapses due to their greed, it's the end of their wealth. Assets only have value in the presence of law and order.

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Everything I write is my opinion and not to be considered proven fact. Nothing I write should be considered financial advice.
2009-06-21 00:56:55
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Slartibartfast
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I concur: quoting the Turner Radio Network is dangerous. I put him in the same category as Art Bell: amusing entertainment at the, ahem, end of the day.



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2009-06-21 01:09:34
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Jazen
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It won't be just their wealth that it will be the end of....

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Y'all smoke this **** to escape reality?
Me, I don't need this ****.
I am reality.

2009-06-21 01:10:05
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Genesis
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I appropriately disclaimed it.

But the Financial Times is reporting that the "couriers" were released. So is AsiaTimes and other sources.

Do you believe that the cops would release someone trying to counterfeit $134 billion in bonds, and do you further believe that we wouldn't have the US DOJ sitting on its hands instead of falling over itself to indict these clowns?

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me

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2009-06-21 01:11:02
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Laura
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If that's true, all assets are zeroed because we certainly don't have law and order in DC.

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2009-06-21 01:11:20
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"What happens in Italy, stays in Italy."

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"For the greater good, the government has decided to **** all of you."


2009-06-21 01:13:32
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Impetunomics
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Id still can the Hal Turner paragraph, it's just asking for trouble.

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On the other hand, maybe there is something to "fauxllateral" being used to prop up insolvent institutions.

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2009-06-21 01:20:06
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Hihoherewego
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unbelievable - you are like the energizer bunny... you just keep going and going and going...


Oh hell. Your avatar is absolutely disgusting. Any others you show like that will be duly ignored by your's truly as much as humanly possible.

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"I have committed thought crime." 1984





2009-06-21 01:27:57
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Cluster ****...

We're all familiar with the saying "follow the money".

Let's not forget about the ones who "run and hide"...

Tinfol aside. My hunch is that the instruments are real. They are now in the rightful owners hands. And because his stooges were caught. They must pay a silent pennance to the discoverer (Italy) for their cooperation of honor.

That will be the last news release concerning this incident.
"They appeared to be fake... the Italian mafia was involved... beside there is already prooof of counterfeiting.... blah, blah, blah..."

Where are the REAL ****ing police????

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2009-06-21 01:29:26
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Virtual
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Cmon, people what's going on here? Let me post some questions:
Why did Berlusconi come to visit Obama?
Why did Treasury denied everything AFTER Berlusconi left?
What about dates?
Why did Bloomberg's article date changed from 17 to 18?
WHERE are the pictures of these bonds?
What about the scandal with Berlusconi and his naked pictures released earlier?
Was Berlusconi pressured or blackmailed?
Why it took them so long to finally involve the press in Itally?
How would you feel as yet another bearer bondholder knowing Treasury just declared them fakes?

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Vegasradar
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unbelievable - you are like the energizer bunny... you just keep going and going and going...


Dude, I'm telling ya, YEAH! He keeps going and going and going and going....

THanks Karl!!!

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2009-06-21 01:42:19
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Kylafoon
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Virtual, Looks like we may be entering a period of tragic "accidents"...

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"...But whenever we see things done wildly, but taken tamely, then the State is growing insane..." - Gilbert Keith Chesterton 1910



2009-06-21 01:43:39
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Phantomace
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Kristin:
That avatar is just, ummm, distracting.
Pardon me, I think I need a cold shower...

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2009-06-21 01:45:03
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Pyruvate
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Great example as to why Iranians are protesting in the streets and we "Americans" are on blogs banging virtual fists on virtual tables:

huh... huh... huh... boobs... huhhhh...


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2009-06-21 02:10:43
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Scrood
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Should'nt the "$500 billion denomination" be "$500 million denomination"?

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2009-06-21 03:19:59
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Hihoherewego
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Another view......perhaps a bit less tinfoil and more macro. Although I don't know how this can't involve tinfoil? On the 'face' of it, two couriers that look about as 'Japanese' as a Phillipino with heavy and poorly executed plastic surgery.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo....

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Hihoherewego
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Great example as to why Iranians are protesting in the streets and we "Americans" are on blogs banging virtual fists on virtual tables


Beats the hell outta getting shot at.

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Marsgate
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Here is a few chapters of The Gold Warriors.

Vedy, vedy interesting. FRNs and Fed gold notes flying all over. I stayed up to

late to read this. I am going to read it again. It gets pretty good as you get

a little more into the story.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:ErlK....


2009-06-21 04:52:13
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Asimov
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The closeup looks valid to me -- particularly compared to the ones being shuffled in the video.

Shrug. Never seen anything like that before. Hell, I doubt many people have.

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It's justifiably immoral to try to deal in a moral fashion with an immoral entity.

If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
2009-06-21 04:54:12
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This saga is getting addictive: so many possibilities, so many questions unanswered. fascinating. The main question for me is why were they released.

Who needs the sunday papers?

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Other countries have their history. Brazil has football.
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Phirang
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KD, did you see what ...... wrote about you???

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The Treasury can issue debt on your behalf because the State can and will stomp the wealth out of you and your family.
2009-06-21 07:18:09
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