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Genesis
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A True American Patriot!
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1346-S....

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-08-19 09:06:46
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Gen_maximus57
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This is good but such a small step. I think the Banksters are still winning though like 99 - 1

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Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper.
2009-08-19 09:30:19
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Widgeon
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That is indeed a Tiny Bit of Good Newss.

2009-08-19 09:33:25
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Danno
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Judge Jack Weinstein may have been right in this instance, but he is still a steaming pile of dog crap.

2009-08-19 09:49:14
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Jinroh
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I 'll take some good news like this over none ! For the most part,we have had none :( So bright spots are welcomed,even if small.

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I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
2009-08-19 11:00:59
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R0h1tp
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Let's hope this ball gets ROLLING...
Quote:
Law Firm: Suit Says Wells Fargo Claimed Customers' Home Ppty Values Declined
08/19 10:04 AM
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires (212-416-2400)
08-19-09 11:04ET
Copyright (c) 2009 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.


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If you’re looking for the bottom of the market there’s a special offer − buy one, you get the next one free.

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2009-08-19 11:34:26
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Throxxofvron
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Good Start.

Leasing a decrepit cruise liner to be anchored off NYC as a floating prison was recently contemplated by NY.

I'll start to feel better when there are packed Bus & Subway Car loads of Banksters being carted through Manhattan on the way to Central Booking and ferried off to Rikers Island or a floating gaol.

If You are not familiar with 'Man Without A Country' by Edward Everett Hale; -You should read it.
It is a fictionalized/amalgamated account based on Historical Facts from the Civil War era of an accomplice of Aaron Burr, Who; found guilty of treason, is condemned to spend His remaining days imprisoned on US Naval Vessels -damned never to be free nor set foot upon American soil again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Wit....

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DIONYSUS: " Thou hast no knowledge of the life thou art leading; thy very existence is now a mystery to thee. " -from 'The Bacchantes' By Euripides

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell

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2009-08-19 17:09:57
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Mblomquist
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How is this any different than B of A (Lewis' & Thain's) conspiracy to defraud B of A investors and or American taxpayers?

Both started out with the SEC

Both gave false, fraudulent or misleading statements and answers to the victims
http://www.michaelblomquist.com/casespen....
http://www.michaelblomquist.com/casespen....

In fact, in the B of A complaint the alleged damages could be viewed as a conspiracy to defraud the United States of America. The $3.6 billion in executive compensation that was concealed from B of A investors should be viewed as taxpayer money; B of A still has in excess of $45 billion of taxpayer funds.

We need to demand that the FBI/DOJ does something about the big crimes and criminals that have devastated if not destroyed our Nation's economy; not just the unconnected "directors" at Credit Suisse.

Here is a copy of the indictment in KD's story.
http://www.michaelblomquist.com/casespen....

As an American you should get on the phone and ask Judge Rakoff's clerks to demand complete disclosure and transparency.
(212) 805-0129

You could also call the DOJ and ask for criminal proceedings.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nye/index.html


What is the SEC's reasoning for:

1) Why they decided to settle within days of filing the complaint / not to investigate further?
2) How did they decide upon a pittance of $33 million for the fine given the $3.6 billion in unjust enrichment?
3) Why is B of A paying the fine instead of the recipients or Lewis & Thain?
4) Add your ideas here

There are way too many questions that need to be answered, especially since this fraud involves tax payer money.

Here is the stay in the SEC case:

ORDER It is hereby ordered that pending the resolution of the criminal matter in
Eastern District of New York, captioned United States v. Julian Tzolov and Eric Butler, 08 Cr. 370 (JBW) (S-2), by verdict, pretrial disposition, or until otherwise allowed by the Court, the Civil Case proceedings are stayed and the Securities and Exchange Commission, Julian T. Trolov and Eric S. Butler will not seek discovery in the Civil Case from one another or from any third parties.

http://www.michaelblomquist.com/casespen....



2009-08-19 17:52:56
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Steelhead23
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Mikey has a good point here. We all saw the headlines - BofA fined $33 million for failing to disclose to stockholders the compensation given to Merrill's big dogs through the deal. All presented as if "that'll teach em". Yet, if I could steal (yes, steal) $3.6 Billion, get caught, and face only $33 million in fines, shoot, I'd give up my day job. And so would the rest of you. Damn, Karl, why'd you ever give up that cushy CEO gig? Of course BofA investors should be ****ed, as should every investor, but in reality it is the American people who were ripped off as we ponied up the cash for the takeover. I understand that certain U.S. government employees may have encouraged this non-disclosure, this fraud. There it is, the smoking gun, right there in plain sight, yet no one has been indicted!? The stench is overwhelming.

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short em all - let God sort em out!
2009-08-19 20:48:56
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