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Genesis
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2009-09-14 09:16:33
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It's sort of the last straw exposed to my tired eyes. From the very top, corporations, Paulson, Greenspan, legislature, et alia, to the very little people, those who lied about their income to those who had great intentions but couldn't reject the bezzle - none of them. Bezzle from top to bottom all exposed.

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2009-09-14 09:27:48
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Must wonder what our president is thinking given his long standing, and personal, relationship with ACORN over the years. It all might get very complicated for him.

2009-09-14 09:29:13
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When it comes to exploiting children, it's time to start boiling the ropes.

Another great call to arms, Gen. Thanks.

Couldn't believe it when the Baltimore prosecutor threatened to go after the filmmaker instead of ACORN. The corruption is so deep and systemic now, I despair for the future.

ETA: This is hurting Obama already and deeply. Even hardcore believers in my own family are starting to wonder.

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2009-09-14 09:31:33
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This door should never have been opened.
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The White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships,[1] formerly the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (OFBCI) is an office within the White House Office that is part of the Executive Office of the President of the United States.

OFBCI was established by President George W. Bush through executive order[2] on January 29, 2001, representing one of the key domestic policies of Bush's campaign promise of "compassionate conservatism." The initiative sought to strengthen faith-based and community organizations and expand their capacity to provide federally-funded social services, with the idea having been that these groups were well-situated to meet the needs of local individuals. As Texas governor, Bush had used the "Charitable Choice" provisions of the 1996 welfare reform (which allowed "faith-based" entities to compete for government contracts to deliver social services) to support the work of faith-based groups in Texas.

2009-09-14 09:31:44
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Ponzi_unit
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Jbyer, on the surface the OFBCI sounds great! It's been my thesis that government suppresses true charity: It's an easy out; Not my job; The governments responsibility.

If I read your comment right, you're saying we should have never got to the point where government is out competing charity.

When you say, open the door... it seems that through competition for charitable dollars, government gains control of charity.

2009-09-14 09:35:48
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We should have never opened the door of giving federal money to these organizations. Now matter how much good you think your church can do with it it eventually makes the organizations dependent on the government and organizations like ACORN can get in too. That's what you couldn't get conservatives to understand back in 2001 when they thought this idea was the bee's knees.

2009-09-14 09:39:29
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The problem with getting anything resolved in the US right now is everything gets classed into which side of the political fence it belongs. You could murder and **** 20 people and if you declare yourself to be a [republican/democrat] you will immediately be defended by half of the nation.

2009-09-14 09:40:51
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Our church had a significant (civil) debate about whether to get involved w/ these gov't programs when Bush put them forward. To their credit they refused to apply, etc. because they realized that once they started chasing this money that then, eventually, someone else would be calling the tune; some faceless bureaucrat would have their hands in the church's business, etc. and that to get more money eventually they'd have to satiate that bureaucrat to get good references, etc. It has all happened to others and was/is completely predictable & certain.



2009-09-14 09:44:21
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Karl this one demands actions. Would love to respond to it, but at work now.

This one requires think time. Soemthing needs to be done. Something has to be done.

Will comment again later tonight.

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2009-09-14 09:49:56
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Great strategy on the film maker's part. The additional tapes are released in response to the BS reactions of the ACORN officials. Let 'em cut their own throats.

Heh. Nice strategy. I'm wondering how many more tapes he has.

IMO, Everyone associated with that organization should be investigated. Including those who used ANY of their "services" to obtain loans or assistance. They, and the organization should be audited. It's public money.


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2009-09-14 09:51:56
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JBeyer is correct - it sounds like a decent idea in theory

Until your kids are being "helped" by moonies
Or christian scientists
Or muslims
Or mormons

Or any number of other "faiths" you personally happen to object to

No, government and religion should not mix.
The founding fathers got that right- we are not wiser than them and GB2 sure as hell wasn't either.

2009-09-14 09:52:18
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Beck and this filmmaker have ACORN by the balls. IMHO they made a HUGE mistake trying to fire back at these folks and claiming it was an "isolated" case with two "rogue" workers.

Big, big ****ing mistake.

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2009-09-14 09:53:03
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I called my Congressional offices in DC and in Boston: they seemed to not give a f---.

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2009-09-14 09:55:04
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Karl - forgetting about markets and Congress for a minute.....thanks for your efforts to eradicate underage p*rn from the internet.

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2009-09-14 10:15:54
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How do you know that the tapes (all three) aren't fakes? Produced in a home studio somewhere? There are a lot of racist people out there that would stoop to such lows. The government is so hot on busting kiddie porn rings these days (if only to provide public distraction from the crooks on Wall Street) I'm certain that if there was really probable cause, the perps would have been arrested by now.

2009-09-14 10:24:43
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http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/12/stat....

Bertha Lewis statement excerpt: "...This recent scam, which was attempted in San Diego, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia to name a few places, had failed for months before the results we’ve all recently seen..." "...But it is clear that the videos are doctored, edited, and in no way the result of the fabricated story being portrayed by conservative activist “filmmaker” O’Keefe and his partner in crime. And, in fact, a crime it was – our lawyers believe a felony – and we will be taking legal action against Fox and their co-conspirators..."
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I'm pretty sure that Bertha's "we" includes Baltimore City State Attorney Patricia Jessamy, a big Obama supporter during the 2008 election. (As we recall, Obama's tangled ties to the ACORN RICO operation (legal counsel) go very, very deep.)

Ms. Jessamy is the govthug threatening to file felony charges against the pair who exposed ACORN's aiding and abetting of the exploitation of children for sexual purposes.

You've got to wonder if Ms. Bellamy gets some sort of swag from ACORN's operations in her city...

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2009-09-14 10:25:30
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Wb6yyz posted: "I'm certain that if there was really probable cause, the perps would have been arrested by now."

You don't know much about Maryland, do you?

Wb6yyz posted: "How do you know that the tapes (all three) aren't fakes? Produced in a home studio somewhere? There are a lot of racist people out there that would stoop to such lows."

If they're fakes, how come ACORN's sockpuppet Patricia Jessamy is looking to file felony charges against your "racists"? You can't file felony charges for making a fake tape...

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2009-09-14 10:30:30
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At least now when someone defends Obama I can say "you mean that guy from that group that helps to ***** out kids?"

2009-09-14 10:31:21
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How do you know that the tapes (all three) aren't fakes? Produced in a home studio somewhere? There are a lot of racist people out there that would stoop to such lows. The government is so hot on busting kiddie porn rings these days (if only to provide public distraction from the crooks on Wall Street) I'm certain that if there was really probable cause, the perps would have been arrested by now.

Uh, you can't file felony charges for "wiretapping" something that didn't happen.

Further, ACORN fired the two DC employees and there are reports they fired the Baltimore employees as well. They weren't really in that tape?

Oh wait - they fired people who weren't really in the tapes?



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I have such enormous respect for Mr. O'Keefe, and like him or not, Glenn Beck has done this country a service.

Glad you expressed how I'm feeling about this, Karl. I literally was shaking with anger when I realized it was clear that ACORN knew this involved children!

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Minor detail... the Baltimore vid was the first, the DC vid was 2nd.

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Beck and this filmmaker have ACORN by the balls. IMHO they made a HUGE mistake trying to fire back at these folks and claiming it was an "isolated" case with two "rogue" workers.


That was precisely why the tapes were released over several days and not all at once - to garner this type of response from ACORN that can it could be used against them.

Wonder if there is another tape or two sitting on Beck's desk waiting to be released soon.

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I'm willing to bet there are a bunch of 'em.

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2009-09-14 10:40:47
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Doctored !!???

Those ACORN workers didn't look like CGI'd pixel shaded people to me....

Now they have sunk to this !!???? Extensive video taped evidence is not enough now ?

Deny,deny,deny seems to be the new party line,coming out 1600 as to 9/12,and to ACORN's child sex ring/tax evasion/home loan/political finance fraud exploits.

There is no doubt we are ruled by criminals,and robber barons,who will sink to new lows in reaching their slimy,fraudulent objectives.Even if that means supporting those that would aid and abet child prostitution with tax dollars and Attorney General support in imprisoning those that would uncover it.

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