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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/657-Ok....

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2008-11-13 08:43:38
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Why don't they just make you president?

2008-11-13 08:44:56
Genesis
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I'm unelectable; I won't bull**** people.

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2008-11-13 08:47:27
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Secretary of the Treasury would do.

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2008-11-13 09:17:53
Makoshark
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FBI Director would be an apt position as well.

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Putting out fire with gasoline
2008-11-13 09:19:41
Tsberts
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Gen, I know you strive for memorable closing lines, but this one takes the cake:

Quote:
Are you going to attempt to polish it or flush it?


Hats off to you, sir!

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2008-11-13 09:20:36
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To get elected, you have to consort with people like Rahm Emmanuel, a psychotic ballet dancer.

Btw, I got banned on ...... because I wasn't pro-Obama enough for Janzen.

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2008-11-13 09:21:07
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Faxed to all Obama contact numbers listed below:

Washington D.C. Office
713 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2854
(202) 228-4260 fax
(202 228-1404 TDD
Email our office

Chicago Office
John C. Kluczynski Federal Office Building
230 South Dearborn St.
Suite 3900 (39th floor)
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 886-3506
(312) 886-3514 fax
Toll free: (866) 445-2520
(for IL residents only)

Springfield Office
607 East Adams Street
Springfield, Illinois 62701
(217) 492-5089
(217) 492-5099 fax

Marion Office
701 North Court Street
Marion, Illinois 62959
(618) 997-2402
(618) 997-2850 fax

Moline Office
1911 52nd Avenue
Moline, Illinois 61265
(309)736-1217
(309)736-1233 fax

2008-11-13 09:26:45
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A few points Gen:

1) How can we get away from running up huge amounts of debt, when our tax system favors the accumulation of debt over equity?

2) China, I think, will fare better than the United States because of the huge reserves that they have to play with. They can spend on consumption and infrastructure, etc. without any inflationary effects, because they actually have money. I think that at the end of this shake out we may have China rise from the ashes as a very major player on the world stage.

Last modified: 2008-11-13 09:28:47 by eb
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2008-11-13 09:27:00
Genesis
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1. You can only run up debt that can be financed by actual future production growth. Beyond that it always winds up creating a bubble. Limiting leverage limits the damage from such bubbles. You must insure that the leverage limits exist, are reasonable (e.g. 12:1) and are ENFORCED with no loopholes to avoid systemic damage.

2. China will get creamed; they are a nation of peasants, in the main. I wish them luck - they're going to need it.

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2008-11-13 09:30:05
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Gen, China is so weird:

the older generation(uneducated) is so ignorant they literally don't know how to use a microwave. I **** you not.

China could turn out ok, but it depends how effective their next 5-year plan is.

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2008-11-13 09:32:24
Jerm
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Thanks for another great ticker!

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2008-11-13 09:33:23
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Couple of things. Steph has a job? Does she ever sleep? And Gen for the FBI? You kidding me. CIA baby, Gen ain't answering to anybody. Just order a couple of assassins out to do what the current administration won't. I think Obs and Mtgspy would fit the bill. And for WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY who could we get except for HEDGIE. ALL PRESS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESS CONFERENCES ARE DONE BY SHOUTING AT THEM. PRESS RELEASES ARE ALL CAPS!


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Since September it's just gotten colder and colder. There's less daylight now, I've noticed too. This can only mean one thing - the sun is going out. In a few more months the Earth will be a dark and lifeless ball of ice.
2008-11-13 09:35:22
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Gen,

Was wondering if you've had a chance to read the following:
http://www.chinastakes.com/story.aspx?id....

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But if the US must ask China to buy some portion of its national debt, what kind of conditions and principles should China we raise?@@

The principle should be the same as the basic principle upheld by the US and IMF when gsavingh other countries in crisis: cut fiscal disbursement and both the government and the people should save money. Besides that, there are six points: first, the US should cancel the limits on high-tech exports to China, and allow China to acquire advanced technology and high-tech companies from the US; secondly, the US needs to open its financial system to Chinese financial institutions, allowing all Chinese financial firms to open branches and develop business in the US; third, the US should not prevent Europe from canceling the ban against selling weapons to China; fourth, the US should stop selling military weapons to Taiwan; fifth, the US should loosen its limits on numbers of Chinese tourists and allow them to travel freely to the US; and sixth, the US should never restrain Chinafs exports to the US and force RMB appreciation in the name of domestic protectionism and employment pressure.


The author is some Chinese professor.
Any thoughts?

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2008-11-13 09:35:33
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1) I think what I was getting at is that the tax code should be amended to ameliorate some of the favor given to accumulating debt. This might help the situation.

2) Perhaps, but those peasants are the people financing our debt, and they very clearly, as a nation, have a great deal of money to throw around. They have huge surpluses and reserves, I don't see how they fare worse than us (huge deficits debt, insolvency).

2008-11-13 09:36:03
Genesis
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EB: Any nation that has built its economy on the premise of unsustainable consumption by SOME OTHER NATION'S CONSUMERS is going to be wrecked.

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2008-11-13 09:38:23
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Gen,

Another great ticker. I'm pretty sure I speak for many here when I say that when I read your tickers in the morning it's like a breath of fresh air. Pure TRUTH on an LCD.

However, I have little hope left of Obama conforming to your list. For politicians this is like Russian Roulette when they can see that the bullet is in the next chamber. They just won't pull the trigger. I know they should and I know you'll say they have to (or ELSE) but I just don't think they can. Never underestimate the human capacity for self deception.

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Via ova capitum dura est.
2008-11-13 09:45:12
Dessa
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Remember the days when banks were limited on how much interest they could charge on credit cards and loans? Now there are some cards that charge 39% interest, then late fees, then over the limit fees. That's how a lot of people have run up so much debt. I'd like to go back to limiting the banks on how much they could charge customers.

2008-11-13 09:48:47
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"You will send up a bill that enacts a full repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley."

What are the chances that he will do that considering he asked Leach to represent him with Albright at the G20?

Can anyone think of how this was a smart move on Obama's part? Shouldn't Leach be one of the ones being called out?

2008-11-13 09:53:04
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Another excellent Ticker, sir. You are a really good writer. Thanks for all you do. A true patriot. Why can't you, Mish, CR, Charles Hugh Smith, Reggie Middleton, and others be the adults allowed in the room? Seriously.

Why does it have to be the more things change, the more they stay the same? Does the citizenry have to revolt?

2008-11-13 10:00:09
Genesis
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Maybe.

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2008-11-13 10:00:34
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You guys are fooling yourselves if you think Obama will do the right thing. No freaking way.

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2008-11-13 10:06:51
Maddog
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Karl I love your ticks but you must believe in Santa,Tooth Fairy and Obama. I do not think the course that has been set will change.

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2008-11-13 10:17:06
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I'm willing to extend the benefit of doubt to Mr. Obama, but must say his early appointees/advisors don't give me much hope for anything good here. They are truly the worst of the worst - e.g., Biden, Rahm E., Maddy A., etc.

Probably deluding myself to even hope for improvement - realistically, we have jumped from the frying pan into the fire with this erection.

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"Panics do not destroy capital; they merely reveal the extent to which it has been previously destroyed by its betrayal into hopelessly unproductive works"
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2008-11-13 10:17:40
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Very good piece by Kevin Depew. Funding bailouts could literally kill us:

"But you and I already know how this story ends. The right thing will not be done. There will be more bailouts. And then more bailouts. Meanwhile, even as we continue writing checks to failed businesses, once-healthy businesses are facing doom, victimized by zombie companies absorbing dollars that, if freely spent, would be rightly theirs.

USA Today this morning ran a piece on Crestor, an expensive drug that when given to those with normal cholesterol resulted in 54% fewer heart attacks and 48% fewer strokes. Unfortunately, using Crestor in healthy people to save lives would add $10 billion to the nation's healthcare bill."

http://www.minyanville.com/articles/AXP-....

2008-11-13 10:18:12
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