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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1132-O....

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2009-06-18 08:40:24
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The irony is all the laws are on the books and have been on the books to tackle these issues. I love how Obama talks about "20th century rules for 21st century issues" That is bull crap. This mess happened by breaking laws or just straight up not enforcing laws on the books. This is a power grab by the FED and government plain and simple.

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2009-06-18 09:14:31
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New authority for the Federal Reserve to supervise all firms that could pose a threat to financial stability, even those that do not own banks.


This will end well....

2009-06-18 09:42:47
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Here we go. Fun with Geithner on TV.

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2009-06-18 09:45:49
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You might also want to tie into your remarks on additional Fed regulatory powers that the BOG of the Fed contains on it some of the heads of those very banks that are being regulated - how is that not a conflict of interest ? Also that "independent" BOG member seats are currently partly unfilled.


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2009-06-18 10:44:54
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Geithner and Co makes the Fed into an omnipotent Soviet style central planning agency. This is pretty much what Paulson offered up a couple years ago. It really is preposterous that this is even being considered given the awful track record of this entity. I'd be surprised if such sweeping pseudo reform actually makes it out of CONgress.


2009-06-18 10:54:32
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Screw regulation. I say, take over the damn banks and run them in the public interest. Yeah, I know, that ain't gonna happen. So, if we are going to get a new office of financial consumer protection, I nominate Karl Denninger and Ralph Nader to tag team the office. One socialist and one good capitalist ought to scare the bejeezus out of Wall Street fraudsters. Might I suggest a snarling pit-bull logo?

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2009-06-18 11:00:10
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Fox guarding the hen house.

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2009-06-18 11:03:18
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Written by big banks. Trying to run mortgage brokers out of the business. Also trying to get the smaller mortgage banks out of business. They can't afford to hold the percentage. Less choice for the consumer - more profit for the banks.

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2009-06-18 11:59:42
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It appears Gerald shares this opinion. Although his statement that the Fed is a private entity IIRC flies against KD's take on that.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/ar....

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2009-06-18 12:51:48
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Tjeff,
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The irony is all the laws are on the books and have been on the books to tackle these issues. I love how Obama talks about "20th century rules for 21st century issues" That is bull crap. This mess happened by breaking laws or just straight up not enforcing laws on the books. This is a power grab by the FED and government plain and simple.


F'ckn A

BINGO

2009-06-18 13:06:19
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Specifically, the problem is too much debt for the level of income available to service it. This cannot be corrected by spurring "more lending"; there is no more borrowing capacity!

Until they GET IT, we can forget about anything getting fixed.

I just can't believe how completely incompetent these folks are. Never in my wildest dreams (better said nightmares) could I have imagined that we would end of in hands of raving idiots. Either that, or they are extremely evil, but I'm inclined to go with the idiot factor ... for now.

Edit: Please forgive my utter lack of diplomacy.

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2009-06-18 13:17:19
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If the Obama Administration is truly interested in financial regulatory reform ...



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2009-06-18 16:44:48
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Bill Cohan had some comments about this today in a Bloomberg video. A link to the video is on the home page under Editor's picks.

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2009-06-18 17:25:08
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Just in case people want a little more dosage of Geithner, here is some text nd/or video from PBS

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/....

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2009-06-19 00:14:11
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Laura
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TMD, I think we can safely assume that in their captured state the legislators only legislate that which benefits the banksters. They certainly are DEAF to their constituents. We might as well quit paying Congress and just let financiers run the entire f*king country.

Highrev - they understand what they are doing, they are just arrogant enough that they think they can ensure that the ending is beneficial to them and their owners.

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Karl's just a shill for Big Math. 1LumpSum
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2009-06-19 00:23:18
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Laura,

They forgot how to read, too. I guess they just get paid to have sex with their campaign assistants. LOL.

2009-06-19 00:49:22
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Oh, obviously!

The stuff that's been passed during this Bernanke "crisis" for the most part has been pushed through on an unrealistic accelerated schedule. Most of the really big give-aways have been passed with little chance for more than a few congress people to read the entire bill. Why? I mean the crisis is hanging in there for the long haul and the duration, what's up with this quickie legislation?

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Karl's just a shill for Big Math. 1LumpSum
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2009-06-19 01:01:10
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Laura,

It's really scary, not to mention unconstitutional as all get out. Our checks and balance function of the government is NOT kicking in. My little theory is that the administration can so easily steamroll Congress by blackmailing them. Congress was too stupid to realize (when they passed the Patriot Act) that they would be spied on too! LOL. They all have skeletons, so voila.

That's just a joke (mostly). The real reason is that they don't care. They will sign whatever is put in front of them, as long as they can get back to their Kennedy Center lifestyles. It's pathetic.

Remember when people used to complain all the time about "gridlock" in Congress? I wish those days would return!

2009-06-19 01:08:49
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How Things Are Done In Wa****on, D.C.

Problem: We have this here Wall Street criminal and we must bring justice to these types, but alls we got is this here horse, rope and tree.

Output From Congressional Committee: Take one rope and throw it over high-up limb. Tie one end to horn on saddle. Tie other end around newly-appointed "regulator". Use horse power to raise regulator to limb. Regulator climbs out on limb to get better view and watch for "irregularities"...

Committee Chairman appears on CNBS to announce new plan to the admiration of talking heads...

In the future when this does not solve the problem, move to a higher limb.....

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2009-06-19 09:10:50
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The problem is the fraud was so rampant you'd have to put most of the government in jail. Not going to happen. Fraud and corruption institutionalized, become policy.

Third world nationhood, with guns, awaits us.

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2009-06-19 09:15:25
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Things are spinning out of control so fast it's all I can do to keep up with who's doing what to whom, nevermind trying to do something to stop any one piece of it. Ayup, the Congress has rolled over, just as we did.
Mlshawaii, I don't think that was a joke you made - you hit it dead on.

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2009-06-19 09:44:25
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This is the final stratagem to change our form government by:

Hegelian Dialectical Method: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis,_ant....

The triad is usually described in the following way:

▪ The thesis is an intellectual proposition.

▪ The antithesis is simply the negation of the thesis, a reaction to the proposition.

▪ The synthesis solves the conflict between the thesis and antithesis by reconciling their common truths, and forming a new proposition.

In other words:

They created a crisis with a credit bubble (thesis)

They created a reaction to the credit crisis by changing government (antithesis)

They have their solution that allows more control by the FED (synthesis)

Problem/Reaction/Solution, however, its their game and win, not ours.

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2009-06-19 12:44:53
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Regulatory reform? Another change?

Watch Bernanke! If he is not reappointed and if Summers is not appointed, then there is a little chance that there might be a change coming in terms of regulatory reform of financial. Otherwise, just forget it all those lip services from the powers that be.

A change you can count on and can be deposit in the bank--Yeah, a trillion deficit here, a trillion deficit there, pretty soon there will be nothing left to change.

2009-06-19 12:56:38
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Some people may want to see it, so here is the complete interview with Barney Frank on NBR from 6/19/09 regarding regulatory reform.

http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/research/lea....

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Man, I would to have him in one of our poker games.
2009-06-20 11:26:27
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