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Genesis Posts: 71435 Incept: 2007-06-26 
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1556-I....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-10-30 08:05:56
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Wis/min Posts: 481 Incept: 2009-08-14 
On the border
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In the village voice this last Tuesday http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-10-27/n.... Let's hope the press is actually waking up. Thanks Karl
2009-10-30 08:15:22
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Knobcreek Posts: 940 Incept: 2009-02-06
Near TN & VA, but not SC
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What's the motive for the press waking up, if indeed it is occuring. It's not like the information they're presenting is new. They've just chosen to NOT write about until now. Why?
2009-10-30 08:17:58
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Madashel Posts: 577 Incept: 2007-09-14 
West Texas
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It's about money. The people know the press is helping to hide the sausage for the gov. The press is losing viewers and readers. They are starting to latch on to the stories the people want to hear (the truth) because if they do not they are going to continue to fade into the oblivion of irrelevance and eventually be out of business, IMHO.
---------- "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana "It is better to live for something rather than die for nothing." - George S. Patton
2009-10-30 08:20:41
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Karlmarxghost Posts: 2641 Incept: 2009-01-26
Stealing Your Property
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Quote:The danger that is being left unsaid - and unrecognized - is as I have asked repeatedly - is the government a cop or a felon? Aiding and abetting is a crime. ---------- My views are my view and mine alone. Karl or ticker forum does not endorse or necessarily agree with my views. DO not trade on my views or take them personally.
2009-10-30 08:24:44
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Swingtrader Posts: 5891 Incept: 2007-08-12
United Oligarchic Goldman Sachs States of America
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madashel wrote..The people know the press is helping to hide the sausage for the gov. The press is losing viewers and readers. They are starting to latch on to the stories the people want to hear (the truth) because if they do not they are going to continue to fade into the oblivion of irrelevance and eventually be out of business, IMHO Press 0 Bloggers 1 The internet is clearly taking the lead. The press is starting to figure out ( I hope ) that either they tell the truth, or wither on the vine. They are looking pretty damn withered at the moment. ---------- Janet Tavakoli wrote.....greater risk for deflationary collapse than before... Whether we get deflationary collapse followed by inflation or just move straight to inflation, the economy is guaranteed more pain.
2009-10-30 08:28:06
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Dji Posts: 720 Incept: 2009-04-21
Fleming Island Online
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PBS.org FRONTLINE, The Warning and Inside the Meltdown. GOOD STUFF!!! ---------- What goes up Must come Down- Alan Parsons Project THE TRUTH HURTS! -Dji
2009-10-30 08:43:47
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Fugitivekind Posts: 613 Incept: 2007-08-20
Boston Online
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I'd be willing to bet that Lieber has read more than a few tickers.
---------- "I refuse to leave our children with a debt they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control." Barack Obama, Feb. 29, 2009
2009-10-30 08:48:36
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Jewels Posts: 109 Incept: 2008-03-24 Canada
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If I were to only watch CNBS, I'd say no. Perhaps Kneale and his cohorts might have better ratings if they did start waking up. If it doesn't help them keep their jobs with Comcast, it might provide them with security when looking for another job.
---------- How now brown cow?
2009-10-30 08:57:50
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Gmf56 Posts: 126 Incept: 2008-10-30 coastal mississippi
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Call me a cynic, but this only looks like a sign that the game is almost up. The press looks like the weakest kid in the group of thugs. When they are pretty sure the group is going to be busted, they squeal first.
2009-10-30 08:57:55
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Jewels Posts: 109 Incept: 2008-03-24 Canada
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As much as some posters dislike Michael Moore for his position on health care, Iraq, guns, Ford, etc. At least among the people I know, his comments lately about Geithner's ineptitude have been chipping away at the big facade.
---------- How now brown cow?
2009-10-30 09:00:54
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Ptoemmes Posts: 79 Incept: 2009-04-13
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Besides Cuomo in NY State are there any other State AGs starting to take more than just a sniff? Brown in CA? FL - fughetaboutit... Maybe we can have a pinned Ticker tracking the state activity. States may be the last dam holding back the populist flood of justice. Pete
2009-10-30 09:08:28
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Dashingdwl Posts: 4564 Incept: 2007-06-26
los angeles
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Did the MSM thoroughly vet our President for the most powerful and influential position in the World? That would be NO. What on Earth makes anyone think they will expose the Wall St/DC gravy train? Their GUY is in charge and he is quite comfortable with his Wall St power base. In fact, Barry Hussein is benefiting from it. I agree this article is a start and that the blog world has been on to it for a while... but come on. Short of an all out implosion and collapse of the market, you'll get no prosecuting and the looting will continue to morph and find new/better/more efficient/more obscure ways to siphon off your money. ---------- Think Green Tip.
2009-10-30 09:11:13
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Karens Posts: 34 Incept: 2009-04-20 Georgia
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Indeed, the government is a felon.
2009-10-30 09:26:22
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Bagbalm Posts: 979 Incept: 2009-03-19
Just North of Detroit
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The press were true believers. Few of them are deep thinkers. They are joiners and social creatures. The sort of weak willed who fawned on the football players in high school. Now their godhead is falling from grace faster than any President has ever managed to do - failing utterly to deal with emergencies that call for heroic statesmanship and the unflinching application of power. Instead we have a whining community organizer who desperately needs to sneak out back for a smoke he can't even be seen taking. Like any high school cliche they will abandon anyone in a heartbeat who might lose their popularity and subject their fanboys to mockery.
2009-10-30 09:27:55
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Txin1880 Posts: 1270 Incept: 2009-02-25
Texas
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The Dallas Observer is a free paper you pick up at restaurants and bars, the largest section is the restaurant reviews and what bands are playing . . . not sure that would be "MSM." They do have a history of doing investigative type stories on Dallas city hall, and this one is great. Along the lines of what Beck has been doing, exposing the people at the helm. Its pretty clear the answer is "FELON" Holder will do nothing. ---------- Don't just starve the beast, slit it's throat. "Blow up your TV, throw away your paper. ~ John Prine
2009-10-30 09:40:39
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Dashingdwl Posts: 4564 Incept: 2007-06-26
los angeles
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When Charlie Gibbs on ABC says something about the looting and the complicity with the Chosen One Barry the Kenyan Hussein Obama, then I will say the press is waking up.
---------- Think Green Tip.
2009-10-30 09:51:08
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Bogey Posts: 728 Incept: 2008-03-12
Montana
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TXin - looks like they are a syndicate of the Village Voice, so I would imagine this is popping up in most big metro's. Not quite mainstream, but respected enough in certain circles who like to think of themselves as influential. Let's hope so. As for the piece, yeah it was good, but then again I'm already a member of his congregation. I'm afraid, though, that it's too long to convert many who aren't. Hopefully the headline is powerful enough.
2009-10-30 09:59:29
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Throxxofvron Posts: 2672 Incept: 2009-02-17
The Land of Bilk & Money
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MSM are generally Owned by Wealthy Financiers and Corporate Interests tied to .gov; and will be generally subservient to the whims of Their Owners irregardless of Viewership or Readership: the MSM are devolved into mere .gov & Corporate Propaganda Dissemination Vehicles. The 'Free Press' & MSM are rapidly becoming mutually exclusive conceptually and categorically. IMHO, the true contemporary 'Free Press' is primarily exhibited by Blogospheric formations; an extension of both Oral Traditions & the Hidden Printing Presses that were instrumental in such activities as the early renegade translation of the Bible or the dissemination of American Revolutionary Era type Populist Messages in the form of pamphlets. As to the Time To Do The Right Thing: That is NOW, With THIS Administration. The Ballot Box Is NOT Working. Two Parties: Both Corrupt Failures. The Soap Box Is NOT working. -The People have Demanded -and Begged- Their 'Representatives' & 'Regulatory Enforcement Officials' to No Avail for Just Governance. The Justice System is NOT Working. -There have been No Prosecutions nor return of Plundered Treasure commensurate with the scope of the Crimes. The People will be Naturally Compelled to Invoke the Fourth Box against Their errant Government and the Criminal Oligarchs well before tolerating another round of bogus ineffectual Sham 'Campaigns' and Successive Lootings. IMHO, the Era of the Great Bezzle will End during the term of THIS Presidency; either in Sweeping Meaningful Reforms and Comprehensive Prosecutions & Punishments; or in Most Savage -& Deserved- Eruptions of Pitiless Rage & Revenge. Forcing the Citizenry to Invoke the Fourth Box would be a Disaster of Unprecedented Proportion and unleash all manner of Unnecessary & Misdirected Cruelties & Carnage. -Irrationality & Misery will visit Us in Broad Daylight if this Invocation is Forced. & the World will tremble in Terror to see the Mightiest and Proudest turn upon Itself in Desperation and Disillusionment... It is with PROFOUND Regret that I admit that I believe that the Invocation of the Fourth Box is Now Already a Foregone and Inescapable Conclusion. I Truly Hope I'm Wrong... ---------- DIONYSUS: " Thou hast no knowledge of the life thou art leading; thy very existence is now a mystery to thee. " -from 'The Bacchantes' By Euripides “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell Last modified:
2009-10-30 11:17:58 by throxxofvron
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Laura Posts: 3153 Incept: 2008-05-05
Florida Space Coast
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Unfortunately, I agree.
---------- Karl's just a shill for Big Math. 1LumpSum Honey, where's the AK ? Tyler Durden My Ford focus can get me from point A to point B just as good Tigger's Cadillac. And my back door window is not broken. Mliu
2009-10-30 11:28:47
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Spazznout Posts: 235 Incept: 2009-04-15 Columbus, Ohio
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Throxxofvron + 1 As sure as the sun will set tonight. I changed my tag a few months ago when I came to peace with this very realization. ---------- "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy 35th president of US 1961-1963 (1917 - 1963)
2009-10-30 12:10:52
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Rinkrat Posts: 11 Incept: 2009-03-04
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As the media starts to wake up to the actions, attitudes and desires of the Obama administration and realize they could soon be working for the propaganda ministry they are starting to jump off the hope & change train. States won't challenge the crimes of the federal government. They can't survive without their sugar daddy. Repeal the 16th amendment and then the States won't be dependent on the Federal Government.
2009-10-30 12:52:22
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Imaboomerdropout Posts: 163 Incept: 2009-09-13
NY
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Not for nothing but 99% of MSM news doesn't have a real honest to god journalists like many years ago. In those days, Karl would be a star sought by all the networks.
2009-10-30 13:24:56
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Thelight Posts: 10 Incept: 2009-09-06
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Karl good work as usual, but be careful. Job losses, first time claims, are staying relatively flat, albeit at an alarming pace. But, to me they are not accelerating. That is, an increasing rate of change. Now, people falling off the rolls are a concern, and participation in EUC 2008 numbers show that. I think you could say the number falling off the rolls is accelerating. That a look at the Sep Oct numbers for EUC 2008. I think you may find an interesting story in people falling off the rolls. This week was a definite turning point in the number running out of benefits.
2009-10-30 13:53:53
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Genesis Posts: 71435 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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First time claims are not an indication of actual job loss. It is replacement rate (or lack thereof) that determines that, along with firing rates. So far (last numbers from up to end of last month) there has been no positive turn. There may be for this month (October) - we'll see next week. ---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-10-30 13:57:01
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