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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1629-F....

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2009-11-16 12:56:50
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Maddymax
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he just basically said he sees no valuation problems, look out this is about to go parabolic

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2009-11-16 13:03:46
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Max2205
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"mandate to foster both maximum employment and price stability"

LOL, Ben has done none of the above....SPX -60% to March, Up 67% to today....He is trying to get the little guys and others wiped out in this market


2009-11-16 13:11:07
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Jjm
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It looks to me like they want to keep the dollar index at 75 or higher. If Bernanke can achieve that goal by running his mouth, why not? The other alternative, jacking rates, would not make Chris Dodd's pals very happy, now would it?

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2009-11-16 13:14:48
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Maxi
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Did anyone else notice his body language and fluctuations in voice? I have watched him since 2006 and he was not the same today, appearing nervous, anxious, unsure; all signs of a liar!

Beneath the surface, I believe that he is terrified and sees what is coming.

2009-11-16 13:27:07
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Yaldor
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Yes raising rates will actually make the economy better by removing the inefficientcies that low rate allows (Carry trade being the biggest butt not the only one)

low rate promote undue risk taking and all sorts of leverage based arbitrage that has nothing to do with actual investment (I define true investment as something that actually produce income - not just a place to park money)

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2009-11-16 13:30:53
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Curbyourrisk
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Did he say no valuation problems or no valuation?

Sounds like deflation to me.....I will second that opinion.

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2009-11-16 13:31:39
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Waverider
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He can say anything now because he knows later he can just say sorry. There are no consequences for him.

2009-11-16 13:31:46
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Tank
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KD, could it be that they are afraid that writting off the debt will mean retaliation by our foreign lenders?

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2009-11-16 13:48:07
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Coolhandluke
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appearing nervous, anxious, unsure; all signs of a liar!


My method is easier. I just look to see if his lips are moving.

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2009-11-16 13:56:02
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Imaboomerdropout
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Maxi, got a link to the video? Thanks

2009-11-16 13:57:54
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Steelhead23
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Just a quick comment on the Fed's willingness to put junk on its balance sheet. If, as you state, neither underlying Fed statute or law, or new specific legislation authorizing TALF or other programs, specifically allow the Fed, on behalf of the people of the United States, to acquire assets that carry a higher risk than debt issued by the United States Treasury, why should the people of the United States be obligated to ensure that the Fed itself does not go broke? This may seem like an insane question as nobody should want the U.S. central bank to go broke - but, if in fact, the Fed has engaged in unauthorized risk taking, I believe that the people of the United States could disavow such debt. That appears to be the choice on the horizon.

I know that Geithner and Bernanke are working from the same playbook - but at some point Geithner may have to make a decision - is he working for Wall Street and its billionaire's club or the United States. So far, its all Wall Street and the billionaires.

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short em all - let God sort em out!
2009-11-16 13:58:01
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Baldy
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September 17, 2008
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“We have lost control,” said Hale, quoting Bernanke. “We cannot stabilize the dollar. We cannot control commodity prices.”
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/....

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2009-11-16 14:16:17
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Maxi
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Imaboomerdropout, no video link, as I watch it live. Sorry!

2009-11-16 14:18:34
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Striker754
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gen,

Do you have a link to a larger chart with DX and SPX on it?

2009-11-16 14:20:20
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Imaboomerdropout
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Maxi,

Yeah, did a search, apparently not recorded. LOL, I know you stood up and shouted "YOU LIE" right?

2009-11-16 14:23:35
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Anti
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Steelhead, I have been trying to think about that same thing. I am wondering what a failure of the central bank would look like. I don't know enough history to make analogies.
As far as Geithner doing what is in the best interests of the American people, Hell will freeze over first.

I almost pray for a terminal illness so I can spend my last days hunting down him and his ilk.

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2009-11-16 15:24:42
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Icecastle
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It sounds as if the Fed is creating a bias toward oil and gold going up, in addition to an upward stock market. While this policy is clearly bad for the country and must, in the long term, face unpleasant corrections, it appears that there is money to be made on the long side for now. The only proviso being that one must be deft enough to make a timely exit.

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2009-11-16 17:57:14
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Eleua
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It sounds as if the Fed is creating a bias toward oil and gold going up, in addition to an upward stock market. While this policy is clearly bad for the country and must, in the long term, face unpleasant corrections, it appears that there is money to be made on the long side for now. The only proviso being that one must be deft enough to make a timely exit.


I keep thinking, every time I hear about gold and inflation, that the WS bankers would just love to have all us try to hedge ourselves against inflation by shorting dollars and buying assets. Why? Because the banks have been trying to get out of their dollar shorts and asset longs for two years. Pulling the mother-of-all-headfakes would fit that nicely.

I just can't accept that the bankers want to inflate.

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2009-11-16 19:02:06
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Eugenioca
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sorry, wrong thread

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2009-11-17 07:02:53
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Waverider
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>I keep thinking, every time I hear about gold and inflation, that the WS bankers would just love to have all us try to hedge ourselves against inflation by shorting dollars and buying assets.

Except that poor warren buffet also got into this ruse ? He has sold enormous amount of puts and bought railroad by splitting shares that he never had done before.

2009-11-17 19:18:34
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Laura
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warren's been reading shipping reports - global and local
we gotta eat and if gasoline is pricey it's gonna be shipped

the CBs want us to do anything but buy gold
ditto IMF - that's for sovereigns only don't ya know

all sovereigns devalue the currency - all times, all places, no exceptions

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2009-11-19 02:39:05
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