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Genesis Posts: 71421 Incept: 2007-06-26 
KD^2 
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http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archi....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2008-09-24 15:42:47
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Maple Posts: 4461 Incept: 2007-09-03 
Southern California
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Yep. Political theater as smokescreen.
2008-09-24 15:45:20
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Vegasradar Posts: 3956 Incept: 2007-07-11
CA
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If the Fed had to drain to defend 2% doesn't that mean that money is flowing freely? TIA ---------- Remember, all Bennie has is dollars. He destroys the currency, he destroys himself. —Karl Filling in the Pieces- an economic overview: http://storage.denninger.net/ppt/teapart....
2008-09-24 15:49:28
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Hapablap21 Posts: 688 Incept: 2007-08-21 
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what is with the negative treasury balance?
2008-09-24 15:49:29
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Hapablap21 Posts: 688 Incept: 2007-08-21
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Quote:If the Fed had to drain to defend 2% either that or nobody is borrowing.
2008-09-24 15:50:08
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Tsberts Posts: 1809 Incept: 2008-02-05
Minnesota Online
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Slosh hasn't been this low (65B) since March 19 2008. Slosh on 9/18 (190B) was the highest ever. That's 125B drained in under a week. ---------- Photoguy was an optimist. In Soviet Russia, the banks are run by the politicians.
2008-09-24 15:53:13
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Financeguy Posts: 4945 Incept: 2007-08-10
Charlotte
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I noticed the same thing. One observation is that as in the real economy those that don't need the money can borrow- those that need it cannot.... Good thing Obama and McCain are coming to Washington to fix this.... ---------- "Granted, if you are not into Barbara Streisand and creme brulee, South Beach could be a tad lonely." Eleua
2008-09-24 16:05:45
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Billb Posts: 851 Incept: 2008-02-10
Chicago
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How much longer will this data be available to the public, I wonder....
---------- Mottram was an optimist.
2008-09-24 16:06:57
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Weedthegarden Posts: 386 Incept: 2007-09-11
Houston, Tx
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The minus treasuries is......what borrowed from China??????????????
---------- WeedtheGarden "They who lack talent expect things to happen without effort. They ascribe failure to a lack of inspiration or ability, or to misfortune, rather than to insufficient application. At the core of every true talent there is an awareness of the difficulties inherent in any achievement, and the confidence t
2008-09-24 16:15:32
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Themortgagedude Posts: 3930 Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis Online
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Not real informed on what the Slosh means. But to me it looks like Berspanke is nailing up the plywood at about the same time the hurricane arrives. Is this the short the phonebook moment we've been waiting for.
---------- "These are interesting times. We don't trust the government, we don't trust the legal system, we don't trust the media, and we don't trust each other! We've undermined all authority, and with it, the basis for replacing it! It's like a six-year-old's dream come true!"
2008-09-24 16:18:21
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Uncleoxidant Posts: 1704 Incept: 2007-07-10 Stumptown
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Quote:Is this the short the phonebook moment we've been waiting for. Even if it is, they'll make most of the phonebook unshortable. ---------- I am NOT a consumer, I am a Citizen!
2008-09-24 16:22:55
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Weedthegarden Posts: 386 Incept: 2007-09-11
Houston, Tx
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KD, What if the FED knows the SHTF and they are trying to get their balance sheet back........ Is that possible....... ---------- WeedtheGarden "They who lack talent expect things to happen without effort. They ascribe failure to a lack of inspiration or ability, or to misfortune, rather than to insufficient application. At the core of every true talent there is an awareness of the difficulties inherent in any achievement, and the confidence t Last modified:
2008-09-24 20:17:44 by weedthegarden
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Videopro Posts: 882 Incept: 2007-08-03 L.A. Area
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This is how the 'Enabling Act Of 1933' is summarized on Wikipedia: Under the Act, the government had acquired the authority to pass laws without either parliamentary consent or control. Unprecedentedly, these laws could even deviate from the Constitution. The Act effectively eliminated the Reichstag as active players in German politics, though the existence of the body, alongside that of the Reichsrat and of the office of President were protected under the Act. Together with the Reichstag Fire Decree, it formed the legal and constitutional basis for the Third Reich TAKE THE FIRST SENTENCE AND PLACE THE WORDING SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH BAILOUT BILL. WE ARE BEING THRUST FEET FIRST INTO THE FIRES OF FASCISM RIGHT NOW!! ---------- ---------- "The Spinning Cyclone Of Deflation Is Fueled By Deficit Spending. An efficient asset destroying storm powered by the printing press". - Me Last modified:
2008-09-24 16:36:39 by videopro
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Zanni-baby Posts: 922 Incept: 2007-11-09
the Valley
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To the degree that this is an issue of culpability, this action, should it be investigated, has serious implications. I am afraid to say-- We are looking at the entire American Economy being abducted.
---------- As for all the Banksters-It's all said in one word: GOUT!
2008-09-24 16:38:03
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Av8rphil Posts: 1817 Incept: 2007-06-26
Platte City, MO
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Isn't this how GD1 started? Is BOB playing a game of chicken? ---------- "Two things in life are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and i'm not sure about the universe" -Einstein
2008-09-24 16:38:26
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Baldy Posts: 6555 Incept: 2008-05-16
Pittsburgh
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OMG GREAT point.
---------- FY2011 Budget - Hist'l Tables (PDF 2.0 MB) http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2011/assets/hist.pdf 1996-2011 budgets: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/browse.html
2008-09-24 16:40:22
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Ilikethehype Posts: 573 Incept: 2007-06-26
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Quote:You wouldn't be trying to intentionally cause a bank failure or two to bolster your call for the $700 billion "bailout" plan, or perhaps intentionally lock the short-term credit markets, would you Ben? That theory would be consistant with NOT re-implementing the uptick rule, but instead squeezing all the shorts out of financial stocks. Now, when people start selling or trying to sell financial shares, there will be no shorts to cover. This whole thing reads like a Hollywood movie plot. ---------- Bernanke himself revealed the various policy measures the Fed might take in response to a crisis: buying government bonds, providing overdrafts and other short-term credits to banks, currency swaps (to boost the dollar), and "securities lending," that is, lending money to institutions to buy stocks. URL htt
2008-09-24 16:46:21
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Rene Posts: 25 Incept: 2008-05-17
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Can't we get this information out there? I emailed it to several of the people listed at Fox News. Is there a thread that lists emails to send this information?
2008-09-24 17:06:49
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Patriarch Posts: 566 Incept: 2007-10-18 inside, usually
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KD (and Pika Steph), I think it's time to put you into a safe missile silo or bunker or something. For the sake of us all, please restrict any scuba acitivities, stairs, restaurant food, driving cars, or leaving the house in general until the "all clear" is sounded. Of course the all clear might just sound like a civil defense horn. Well, you will know when it's all clear better than we will. Just please stay safe. With today's posting, you really concisely pointed at the PTB and their duplicity. PS: Get a geiger counter too. Polonium is oderless and tasteless ---------- Our elected take an oath to serve. Time to add: “I will not serve in a capacity which I am not able to comprehend or am incapable of by mental defect of any kind, nor will I use the excuse of intellective deficiency if found in violation of this oath/affirmation”, which backs charging wayward politicians with treason.
2008-09-24 17:07:20
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Av8rphil Posts: 1817 Incept: 2007-06-26
Platte City, MO
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O'Reilly said if someone had come to him early... How about this? Think we can get Karl on O'Reilly? Tonight? ---------- "Two things in life are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and i'm not sure about the universe" -Einstein
2008-09-24 17:09:35
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Steelpiston71 Posts: 2014 Incept: 2007-09-05 Michigan
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Oh My! This is rather HUGE in the Discrepancy Dept. We need to get this one out there. Just Imagine if there was a show out there that made this kind of **** first up, middle of the show in case you missed it, and part of the wrap up! ---------- "The Data Do Not Lie", Mr Mortgage (aka Hedgefundmanip), April 16th March Foreclosure Crisis Video.
2008-09-24 17:18:19
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Av8rphil Posts: 1817 Incept: 2007-06-26
Platte City, MO
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Just saw that there is going to be a new Fast Money show tonight at midnight. Can anybody get an e-mail to Jeff Macke with this information? ---------- "Two things in life are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and i'm not sure about the universe" -Einstein
2008-09-24 17:26:00
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Cameljoe Posts: 852 Incept: 2007-08-21
Just pickin' stocks.
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I can't believe we are being lied to. sarcasm/off.
---------- I SEE DEBT PEOPLE. The best answer to your problems? = Personal responsibility.
2008-09-24 17:32:55
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Tomified Posts: 584 Incept: 2008-03-13
MO
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It needs to go to the New York Times. Could be the story of the century.
2008-09-24 17:38:53
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Ilyachern Posts: 567 Incept: 2007-06-26
North Miami Beach Florida
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The pigmen are taking back their crap so they can sell it to us at a huge premium of its actual worth. Why pledge it to the government and have to take it back eventually when you can dump it on the poor suckers of main street.
---------- The Fed won't be winding down their balance sheet. Their balance sheet will be winding down the Fed. Level 9 9/23/09
2008-09-24 17:44:59
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