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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/1101-E....

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2009-06-09 15:25:59
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Jinxx0r
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WOW. If you (the administration) have to be wrong, nothing like being spectacularly wrong.

just WOW.

we call that:


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2009-06-09 15:35:39
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Midwestman
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That graph is something alright. But the BS artists are claiming that employment is a lagging indicator yada yada.

The key issue is that either (a) the stimulus plan is not "trickling through", or (b) it is not going to help anyway, or (c) both. The biggest problem with that graph is that both of those lines were totally fictional to start with - if the Obama team had any sense they would have drawn a "best-case" and a worst-case curve for unemployment and then tried to make their claim about what their precious plan (stimulus, tax rebate, blowjobs whatever) can do to abate the problem.

Anyway, they set themselves up for an Epic fail alright. This graph (assuming the blogger filled in the data right on it) should be on every major newspaper and they should be asking Gibbs or Obama about it pronto.

2009-06-09 15:39:56
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Sierraboy
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what a great graphic - Thanks for pointing it out Karl

2009-06-09 15:40:19
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WOW. ****. Wow. Proof Positive of total incompetence at every level.
Wont it be fun for future generations to look back and see what a complete mind-blowing ****UP this has been?

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2009-06-09 15:41:32
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Damn Karl did you have a bad weekend? You are on a ****ing tear so far this week with no prisoners taken. Not that Im complaining I think the word DOES need to get out but man right now you have me

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2009-06-09 15:46:01
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Genesis
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My "this is bull****" tolerance level has been reached TJ.

**** Mr. Nice Guy.

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2009-06-09 15:49:46
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Tjefferson - totally agree. KD is rolling like Kobe right now. I kinda like being on his side though....

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2009-06-09 15:50:37
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Gen:
I hope you monitor your blood pressure.
You do, don't you?

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2009-06-09 15:51:02
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Asimov
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Heh, I showed my SO this chart when it was posted the other day -- I think it's finally starting to sink in with her.

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2009-06-09 15:52:34
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Saiga = heart medication

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2009-06-09 15:56:45
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Sandor
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Alright Karl.

There is a sense of extreme urgency in your writing.

When can we expect the wheel-less wagon to cartwheel off the cliff in a ball of flames?

Your freaking me out Bro.


2009-06-09 16:14:06
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Pika-steph
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You gotta read FedUp more often. We posted this 4 days ago.

Outrageous, isn't it?

Also, note that the bulk of the auto-sector layoffs are NOT yet reflected in this graph.

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2009-06-09 16:28:59
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Speaking of SOs, mine works at a defense contractor and is stuck in a warehouse with a bunch of Obama supporters who have had the pleasure of a blown up version of that graph on the wall as of yesterday.

2009-06-09 16:31:52
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Oh wow - how's that going over?

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2009-06-09 16:36:37
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Kab:
I just went in the house and showed it to my wife.
She was speechless, which is rare for her...
She's a former mainframe System Analyst with 2 degrees, not exactly "un-bright", she knew right away what it meant. All she could do was shake her head.

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2009-06-09 16:37:26
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Also, note that the bulk of the auto-sector layoffs are NOT yet reflected in this graph.


Oh hell. Yes but wait until the census taker jobs hit with full force to counterbalance.

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2009-06-09 16:41:28
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......and is stuck in a warehouse with a bunch of Obama supporters who have had the pleasure of a blown up version of that graph on the wall as of yesterday.



That's cruel, unusual, and oh but so deserving punishment.

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2009-06-09 16:50:31
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That chart needs to be on billboards around the country. Id love to see it sort of like an interactive chart, that updates as new information comes in.

2009-06-09 17:00:50
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Yep, when the **** really hits the fan in our economy - what do we really need?

That's right.. we need people tasked with counting other people while being paid by those other people.

What a ****ing joke. I'm just glad that I'm young enough to outlive (hopefully) this stupid ****ing bull****...

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2009-06-09 17:06:05
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Thats assuming this stupid crap doesnt kill us first! Has anyone read how horrible Kennedys Healthcare bill is? Its like we are in a ****ing match to see who can wreck the economy the most!

2009-06-09 17:10:29
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Oh wow - how's that going over?


They just grumble and take their medicine. This is the kind of woman who comes home with a machete because she decided she needed a really big knife for ****s and giggles. You'd never guess it by looking at her but coworkers tend to just shutup and leave her alone.

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I think they'll find an excuse to NOT include the autoworkers and suppliers in the U-3 number.

They'll have some excuse, but there's no way they're gonna allow a U-3 print of 1.5+ million a week for an extended period.

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2009-06-09 17:13:46
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2009-06-09 17:14:25
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Midwestman,
Or d) making it worse.

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2009-06-09 17:18:01
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