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Genesis
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/847-Be....

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-03-03 15:03:47
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Etrade_refugee
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Keep it coming, KD. I hope you know you are writing for posterity.

2009-03-03 15:06:27
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Arcone
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http://www.fedupusa.org/node/49

2009-03-03 15:08:25
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Az
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Gen: At what point does >willful blindness< translate to stratagem operations? It just seems to me that the so-called *smartest guys in the room* are playing dumb way too often.

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2009-03-03 15:32:23
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Pika-steph
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I guess we have to update that page.....

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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

2009-03-03 15:32:24
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Mtgspy
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Karl, just for kick check out optimcrap, busy thanking bernanke. LOL.

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
2009-03-03 15:34:08
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Beausam
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Was wondering how long it would take KD to put out an "I call bull****" on Bernake ticker on that mess of lies. Not long I see.



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The function of the Government is to separate the peasants from their money by pretending to fail.....Reinhardt
2009-03-03 15:36:08
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Mm^^
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At what point can he and the rest be prosecuted?

Seems Paulson is a slam dunk.

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I always leave cookies.
2009-03-03 15:40:36
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Goldbrick
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Like a bulldog that chomped on an intruder's leg and won't let go, I look forward to Gen's Diogenes-like Tickers exposing these frauds!

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2009-03-03 15:40:36
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Fyoupaulson
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What would it take to get Bernanke out of office? Him and Tax Cheat Timmy may be a worse combo than him & King Henry.

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An old Russian proverb, "Dwell on the past, and you will lose an eye. Ignore the past, and you will lose both of them."
2009-03-03 15:44:13
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Yep, I saw some of it. and I like "we don't know what to do". quote regarding AIG.
They sure do cuddle with this ass**** and it makes it quite acceptable to not answer any pointed questions. Even a half pointed question is dodged. Greedsuck was as good at it, but rambled on like chris dodd.
"many people are not happy with the direction, for the AIG bailout," a critter tells bernasser.
The bull**** data stream is in top performance.

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Support locally, and **** off globally!
2009-03-03 16:12:05
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Bxbomber
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What would have stopped the foreign firms from being the counterparties? And then in turn those foreign firms are counterparties to US firms for other OTC derivatives? Isn't systemic risk still high in those cases?

What about the murky legal areas where a US bank has a subsidiary based in the Cayman Islands or some other foreign land?



2009-03-03 16:41:14
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Bv141
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Good Thing the Federal Reserve got a lot more **EMERGENCY POWERS** as a result of the crises, when the Fed had all the powers that it needed to begin with to stop the crises from the get-go....


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2009-03-03 16:49:10
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Junkyard
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****ing lying piece of obamather****ing **** (BB) -- is he starting to turn into a greenspan with his wiggly wise wigs?

WHERE THE **** WAS HE with AIG's shennenigans last year before June?

The fed is done. Has been since they followed the credit markets back in '05. For full enjoyment of his plight, we shall now watch the cost of government debt drive his arse up to 18% TNX.

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It's the people in power having to admit that they know ... But you don't say it...
It's a conglomarate. If one of them betrays the principles of the accrual of money and power, the others betray him.
2009-03-03 16:57:34
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Stalemate
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Bernanke sounds like he's been talking to a shrink:

Ben: AIG exploited a huge gap in the regulatory system.
Shrink: So how does that make you feel Ben?
Ben: It makes me feel angry and hurt.

2009-03-03 17:37:54
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Meltdown
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I was wondering all day why no one called him on that one. Do none of them have a clue what his job was?

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VICTORY BELONGS TO THE RELENTLESS!

2009-03-03 18:23:52
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Clearly, beyond any shadow of doubt, the Masters of the Universe are convinced that allowing AIG to fail would cause such a large ripple through the financial system that throwing enormous sums at the company seemed the best course of action. Yet, knowing that Congress (Sen. Wyden most clearly) and the American People aren't just fed-up, but are mad as hell, Bernanke continues to dissemble - to play three card Monte with the facts. No, he won't disclose the CDS holders who have pulled down $30 billion of our money. No, he won't take over AIG, nor limit exec pay, nor promulgate new rules to prevent further foolish risk taking. In brief, he is allowing us to continue to be taken for a ride. He should resign immediately.

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short em all - let God sort em out!
2009-03-03 18:27:02
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Resign? He should be hung.

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The Treasury can issue debt on your behalf because the State can and will stomp the wealth out of you and your family.
2009-03-03 18:29:17
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Lrs
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Bernanke...won't disclose the CDS holders who have pulled down $30 billion of our money. No, he won't take over AIG, nor limit exec pay, nor promulgate new rules to prevent further foolish risk taking. In brief, he is allowing us to continue to be taken for a ride. He should resign immediately.


Are these people not enemies of the Republic? Are they not engaged in domestic financial terrorism?

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"It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged."
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2009-03-03 18:32:32
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Mayorquimby
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Hanged, Phi. Hanged. I doubt very much any of these idiots are hung.

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It's a PONZI ECONOMY and it already HAS collapsed. Now they need more ponzi!
2009-03-03 18:34:02
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Meltdown
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Forget hanging - I'll settle for Stocks! It just so fits, even thought there is also the Pillary - LOL

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Long ago in colonial America, the troublemakers were punished in the center of town for the entire public to see. Locked in wooden frameworks in the town square, they served their time while the town people scoffed at them. Two types of framework punishment were:

· Pillory - this framework had holes for the criminal's head and hands to stick through while they stood up. Once locked in they might get rotten fruit or other items thrown at them. The wrongdoer was condemned to carry out his punishment in rain or shine or freezing weather.

· Stocks - it had holes in it which the troublemaker's ankles were locked while setting down.





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VICTORY BELONGS TO THE RELENTLESS!

2009-03-03 18:43:05
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Expy
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"What would it take to get Bernanke out of office? Him and Tax Cheat Timmy may be a worse combo than him & King Henry. "

That's rather pointless in the entire scope of things.

The problem lies higher...

Fix it higher up and Tim and Ben will meet Bubba soon enough.

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"IT'S THE INCOME/CASHFLOW SILLY"! {c expy } Where will incomes, wages, and profits/revenues come from to recover the economy after the spiral down? Certainly not the "New Service Economy". W/out massive new debt creation, [unlikely], and useful productivity, the public and business are probably screwed by a

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2009-03-03 18:55:36
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Tesla
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Hahahaha - Kudblow on CNBS right now is saying that Tax-Cheating Timmy has no moral authority to call for higher taxes.



Moral hazard, indeed

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"Neither the wisest Constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams

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2009-03-03 19:11:36
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Psquared
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I posted this on CBS Marketwatch Forums re: Bernanke's testimony and the showboating questioning by committee members that were for consumption only:

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Bernanke is flat out lying to congress. They just are not smart enough to know it. Continuing to fund bailouts and backstops with money we don't have poses a greater systemic risk than letting them fail in an orderly manner. We will get through it faster and clean up the system and restore market order. His way, borrow money we don't have, to bailout bankrupt companies on the premise that we cannot allow them to fail extends the time frame for recovery and risks an all-out collapse.

Where is this 2 trillion dollars coming from? Who will continue to borrow bonds at this rate. The government has moved most of its debt to short term at 0-.25%. What happens if those rates suddenly increase. This is pure monetizing debt whether he wants to admit it or not.

The failure of our government to put a leash on these bailouts and spending money we don't have to bailout companies that cannot survive will lead to collapse and a fundamental change in capital markets -- possibly to the extent that the won't exist any longer.

Case in point. GE will be bankrupt within 3 months. The volume on June 2.50 puts has leaped. So not only will we be funding AIG with money we don't have (but can print) we will have to do the same for GE for surely if AIG, C, BAC, and WFC are too big to fail GE falls into that category as well.

Come on Bernanke. Come clean with the American people. And by the way, start enforcing the laws already on the books and put the criminals in jail. There is fraud on every corner in the financial industry. Just open your eyes and look. Don't wait for them to confess.

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2009-03-03 19:19:55
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Psquared
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Oh, and I did give Gen credit with the URL to his ticker.

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I have money, therefore I exist.
2009-03-03 19:24:10
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