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Mtgspy
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will devalue their currency within a week or two. Risk is 80-90% at this point according to source in DC. I am not at all looking at this angle and caught off guard. The informer wasn't into economy and only knows fact.

Can anyone explain why this move is made?

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.

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BIS meeting in siam reap ongoing.

Your source is correct.

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The Treasury can issue debt on your behalf because the State can and will stomp the wealth out of you and your family.

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More from the source: 30-35% haircut. The other one seems to be Korea.

ALL other currencies will have to follow as even NOW they couldnt compete in price with the price leaders china and korea.

WTF is this about?

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
2008-12-04 21:12:06
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Asian economies are committed to fighting deflation!

I'm bidding for some KGC tomorrow: that's all i know!!!

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The Treasury can issue debt on your behalf because the State can and will stomp the wealth out of you and your family.
2008-12-04 21:15:04
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A "**** you!" to the United States for dicking them.

BAD JUJU.

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2008-12-04 21:15:49
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How does it constitute a "**** you"?

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
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Think dude.....

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2008-12-04 21:17:28
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Trade war

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The Treasury can issue debt on your behalf because the State can and will stomp the wealth out of you and your family.
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See what happens when you deal other nations a **** SANDWICH?

Remember we tried to **** the KDB too (Lehman)

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Sorry, I am not caught off guard this badly, couldn't think, but I will try drink a glass of wine and a bowl of soup maybe it helps.

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
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Scotch. This calls for Scotch.

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2008-12-04 21:18:52
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Well, I'm getting out of FXP for sure now... this is rally-licious.

This must be what Xiaochuan came to tell Paulson: go **** yourself.

haha

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does it matter ? we dont produce very much anyway.. just cheaper walmart trinkets

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Oh this matters a great deal.

Sit down and think this one through. It is very un-funny if this is starting - Bernanke has ZERO he can do about this.

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2008-12-04 21:20:31
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I think, steel, cement, and basic production in US (think MMM) will have issues with this. I think if it is real it wont come down easily without hundreds of lobbyists lining up asking Paulie to do something.

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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
2008-12-04 21:21:59
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Right, and then what happens to our treasury market?

It kills their plan to reflate by piggy-backing bank capital onto the treasury market: the Chinese were clearly ****ed they were getting treasury returns to refinance the US banks who were then making bank on whatever fraud they had at hand.

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THERE IS NOT **** PAULIE CAN DO.

CONGRESS, on the other hand, WILL raise Tariffs into this.

Smoot-Hawley anyone?

Here we GO!

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Surely Bennie and Hank have seen this coming and have a plan. Maybe a 2 Trillion TARP will do it.

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The plan was "be the **** out of office before this happens."

Oops.

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Synthetik is working on a pic of a bar of bullion up paulson's ass.

I think it's most apropos.

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Tariffs on goods from a slave nation?


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what do we do? I am sweating blood. I know how to handle J6P and subprime mortgage? But if this happens AUD has to do the same - absolutely no way to compete. Japanese won't sell dick anymore and there is ZERO they can do from fiscal or monetary. The US cannot devalue against anything else outside china because that is irrelevant, this is US-china issue and I think Gen is right, it could be tarriffs war.

Now I understand the clip bush had in this one (skip to 3:30)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InFBnX87l....


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It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.

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As I stated earlier today, a virtual Plaza Accord is taking place. BTW, the real crisis(run on the dollar) is just beginning. Ironically, this will be good for everything except USD and US Treasuries. Stocks, are nothing more than long-dated TIPS, except the CPI input is market based. The real juice will be in commodities.

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The root cause of all the world's problems is inflation. The only sound money in the world is commodities.
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We're ****ed.

This is what CONgress gets for passing the EESA and then not yanking it IMMEDIATELY when Paulson dicked them.

Remember, the original plan was to buy off the Chinese - as disclosed to Congress. They ****ed them.

Now we pay and there isn't **** we can do about it.

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WTF are you talking about AB, please spew crap somewhere else.

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