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Rmonical
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Ameritrade shows neither the volume nor the open interest. It showed the volume yesterday. This might be like one of those freeway traffic james that you never know what really happened.

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2007-08-23 14:02:06
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CBOE shows it.

http://www.cboe.com/DelayedQuote/QuoteTa....

Also there are about 60,000 calls out on SPX 700 and 112,000 puts. I'm told that one SPX contract equals 100 SPY, so this looks significant to me but I am new to this.

Anybody still interested in this?

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2007-08-23 22:20:12
Genesis
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Correct. SPX options are the dreaded ones that people got butt****ed on when Bernanke played his game last week; they actually expire THURSDAY but the settlement price is taken on the OPENING Friday morning.

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2007-08-23 22:30:35
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Well SPX at 700 is right in the range that some here are saying the SPY contracts are profitable: 600 - 900. So I think it's related.

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2007-08-23 22:53:11
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What the ****?!

61,000 calls written on the 700 SPX level?!

That has to be a ****up. Look at the 1700 level PUTs.

That can't be right.

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2007-08-23 23:15:56
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Karl,

the 700's are worth 4.7 billion. What the hell is going on?

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2007-08-23 23:26:58
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Ya think Ben shouldn't have ****ed off the big boy shorts?

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2007-08-23 23:29:39
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Volume on SPX 700 puts was 165,000 today. That kinda seems like a LOT.

http://delayedquotes.cboe.com/options/qu....

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2007-08-23 23:30:18
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*******n ameritrade. Why have they cleared the daily volume but not updated the open/interest.

2007-08-23 23:31:25
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Whoa...SPX 700 call op int almost matches SPX 1700 put open int..WTF?

Did the call writer take the proceeds and dump it into the puts? WTF???


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2007-08-23 23:36:49
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Guys, you better hope this is all bull****.

That's a ****ing Bin Laden trade. You know, the kind Bin Laden makes before he sets off something like this in a place we won't like?


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2007-08-23 23:53:24
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Please explain. I'm getting lost on this one.

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2007-08-23 23:55:10
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There's a handful of explanations for this but more than a couple of them boil down to "someone is very, very sure the market is going totally to **** - like cut in HALF - in the next three weeks."

You can only hope that is NOT the explanation behind those trades, or that those indicated numbers are due to some sort of data problem and don't represent an actual position.

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2007-08-23 23:59:26
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Gen- what are you looking at. With Stupid Amertrade I don't see anything...

Reading above, in addition to the madness from Wednesday. Can you give me the ticker for it what you are seeing...

Are you saying on thursday someone either bought or wrote an additional 61,000 SPY 70's cal

2007-08-24 00:02:04
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KD, I mentioned my tinfoil hat theory about this last night. Maybe this should be forwarded to Homeland Security if you really think this is true.

2007-08-24 00:02:35
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I checked the tinfoil sites and this turned up:
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/....

Chatter picked up by WMR's sources in the nation's capital and in California point to unusual events that could be a prelude to a 9/11-like false flag "incident" during the Labor Day weekend, possibly one focused on the San Francisco Bay Area.

The FBI in Seattle, as well as the Washington Joint Analytical Center (WJAC), have asked for the public's help in identifying two men spotted aboard Washington state ferries exhibiting unusual behavior. A number of ferry passengers have reported the two men showing strange behavior.

Two photos have been circulated showing two young "Middle East" looking men on board a ferry. The reluctance of the FBI to provide more details is reminiscent of the 2000 and 2001 closely-held government reports that a number of teams of between two and five to six young male and female Israelis, all veteran or reserve Israeli Defense Force members, were spotted casing federal facilities, oil refineries, harbor areas, homes of federal law enforcement officials, office buildings -- including the World Trade Center, bridges, tunnels, and military bases and airfields prior to and subsequent to the 9/11 attacks.




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2007-08-24 00:04:38
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They're already aware of it I'm sure.

This is so blatant that I have trouble believing it would really be that kind of a play. You'd have to be outright nuts to put that on in that sort of fashion because (1) its VERY traceable and (2) its staring you in the FACE.

BTW, that wasn't put on today. That's the OI; I don't know when the position was put on.

Anyway, I'm not buying it as an "end of the world" type of trade for those reasons. I have no explanation for the SPY trades that were done the other day, and I don't know when these were put on, but I do know that the CBOT/E had trouble today with data feeds, so it'll be interesting to see if those are still there in the morning.

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2007-08-24 00:05:31
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Google "university of chicago+stock market+september 11"

Click on the "Poteshman, Option Market Activity and 9/11" article that comes up on Google. – It gives an interesting summary.

(I tried to past the URL in, but it's too long and doesn't work)

Okay, I gotta take off my tinfoil hat now, cause it's gettin' itchy.....

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2007-08-24 00:07:36
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I would point out that the volume for those 700 put options today was 55,000.

Also though, there are 61,000 OI in the calls at 700 too, so I am not sure this is some kind of foreknowledge.

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2007-08-24 00:08:39
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That's friggin great. I'm 5 minutes from the Golden Gate. Time to take a roadtrip.

2007-08-24 00:08:46
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Quote:
The FBI in Seattle, as well as the Washington Joint Analytical Center (WJAC), have asked for the public's help in identifying two men spotted aboard Washington state ferries exhibiting unusual behavior. A number of ferry passengers have reported the two men showing strange behavior.

Two photos have been circulated showing two young "Middle East" looking men on board a ferry.


That's no ****, either.

I have to take that ferry to and from Seattle, and there are those posters on the boats.

WTF? When are we going to figure out that border security is a serious affair? It's a joke that we have to put up with this **** in the middle of the country when the ICE/Customs should be nabbing miscreants at the border and airports.

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2007-08-24 00:14:15
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Here is another one from the Seattle Times:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/lo....

Actually it looks like this is old news, seems to have been posted Aug 3.


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2007-08-24 00:15:36
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That is too eerily familiar to all of the Puts placed on airline stocks within two days before 9/11. That's some scary ****e and if it is true that those transactions went through I'd be very worried. It doesn't take a terrorist attack to hit the S&P. Some inside information into a major bank going under could pay off just as well.

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2007-08-24 00:23:13
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Uh, no, its not "hit" the S&P, its DESTROY the S&P.

Guys, we're talking a 30% or bigger whack for that one the other night to be worth anything.

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2007-08-24 00:26:19
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OK Gen. I bought the toilet paper and soap. Is it time to buy gold? I can always scrub myself with a sweet, sweet bar of gold bullion in the shower. I guess you guys don't really need to know that though.

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