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Tienkou
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Politicians bought and paid for.
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By Scott Lanman and Alison Vekshin

Nov. 20 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. senator said he would seek to block any legislation containing a measure to remove the Federal Reserve’s shield from congressional audits of the central bank’s interest-rate decisions.

The House Financial Services Committee yesterday advanced a proposal requiring audits of the Fed that was introduced by Representative Ron Paul, a Republican from Texas. Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican and Banking Committee member, said in an interview today that the measure “would do fundamental damage to the strength of our financial structure as a nation.”

“I would not vote for any bill and I would filibuster any bill that had this language in it,” Gregg said, referring to the legislative delaying tactic that requires 60 Senate votes to break.

Gregg’s comments indicate that legislation similar to Paul’s bill, which has more than 300 House co-sponsors, would face resistance in the Senate. That would help the Fed, which opposes the bill on the grounds that it could reduce the central bank’s independence in setting interest rates.

California Representative Brad Sherman, the highest ranking Democrat on the House panel to vote for the Paul amendment yesterday, said in an interview that he expected the provisions to be altered “to some degree” as legislation moves through the House and Senate.

‘Terribly Popular’

“If it’s changed a whole lot, could that imperil the bill’s ultimate passage? Yes,” Sherman said. The Paul audit bill won’t be “terribly popular” in the Senate, he said.

Paul, author of a book entitled “End the Fed” that was published this year, said yesterday that provisions in his amendment would limit interference in monetary policy. The measure, co-sponsored by Representative Alan Grayson, a Democrat from Florida, would exclude any unreleased transcripts or minutes of Fed policy meetings. It calls for an audit of the Fed and its 12 regional banks by the Government Accountability Office within a year after enactment.

The committee voted first, 43-26, to substitute Paul’s proposal for a Democratic measure to retain the ban on audits of monetary policy while requiring more limited audits. Fifteen of 42 Democrats joined the unanimous Republicans on the vote. Then, in a voice vote, the committee attached the Paul measure to the broader bill.

Failed to Sway

A call from Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke two days ago failed to sway Representative David Scott, a Democrat from Georgia, who voted in favor of Paul’s measure.

“I said to him that what we’re interested in doing is sending the right signals to Main Street,” Scott said. “The American people are totally dissatisfied with the way the Fed, this administration have so over-handed, disproportionately leaned toward helping the top of the economic stream.”

Representative Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the committee and opposed the Paul measure, said yesterday the issue “may be revisited” when the legislation reaches the House floor.

“It’s going to be seen as weakening the independence of monetary policy with consequent negative implications,” Frank told reporters after the vote. “People are going to be worried about the impact on the dollar, on the interest rate.”

Frank said he expects to finish the legislation in committee on Dec. 1, delaying a vote he had scheduled for yesterday until after lawmakers return from the Thanksgiving holiday. He supported a competing measure from Representative Mel Watt, a North Carolina Democrat, to retain the ban on auditing monetary policy.

Make the Case

“The Fed needs to make the case for policy independence,” said former St. Louis Fed President William Poole, now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington. “The right place for the policy audit” is congressional hearings on monetary policy, not through the GAO, Poole said.

Gregg, 62, who was elected in 1992 and plans to retire from the Senate next year, attributed the Paul legislation’s success to “populist fervor” and lawmakers “pandering” to the public.

If the audit provisions become law, “you will fundamentally harm the stability of the dollar and our ability to fight inflation, because the Fed’s ability to deal with interest rates will be chilled by the fear of congressional oversight,” Gregg said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Scott Lanman in Washington at slanman@bloomberg.net. Alison Vekshin in Washington at avekshin@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: November 20, 2009 17:59 EST



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Now, wonder why obama want to work with him.

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2009-11-20 21:16:44
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Jon Kyl was on Kudlow tonight after a decent segment in which Kudlow read Article I, section 8 in favor of auditing the Fed.....Kyl (republican Senator AZ)said he would absolutely not vote in favor when in came to the Senate.

:sigh:

starts around 6:10

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=13....

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2009-11-20 21:34:39
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"Pandering to the public" Isn't that essentially what a "Representative" should be doing, instead of pandering to the private banks. Bring out the pitchforks.

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A call from Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke two days ago failed to sway Representative David Scott, a Democrat from Georgia, who voted in favor of Paul’s measure.


WTF! Ben's a busy man.

2009-11-20 21:51:08
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The House Financial Services Committee yesterday advanced a proposal requiring audits of the Fed that was introduced by Representative Ron Paul, a Republican from Texas. Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican and Banking Committee member, said in an interview today that the measure “would do fundamental damage to the strength of our financial structure as a nation.”


Translation:
It would show the financial system for the Ponzi scheme it is...

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2009-11-20 21:52:26
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Gregg, 62, who was elected in 1992 and plans to retire from the Senate next year, attributed the Paul legislation’s success to “populist fervor” and lawmakers “pandering” to the public.


He got that right, they are only allowed "pander" to the big corporates and wall street crooks.

By the people for the corporations.




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For heaven's sake, don't do something just because the "people" want it. They know what is best for the little sheeple.

2009-11-20 22:14:31
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"stay the course" messaging will soon be coming down the pike. This article reeks of it.

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> Fed..opposes the bill on the grounds that it could reduce the central bank’s independence in setting interest rates.

As if the Fed sets interest rates, heh, that's a good one Ben, pull the other one now. The market tells the Fed what interest rates are, and everybody knows it.

2009-11-20 22:19:32
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2009-11-20 22:27:11
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Get all teh incumbent out. It matters not what party they are in. Just get all the dickheads out.

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2009-11-20 22:48:24
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Jon Kyl was on Kudlow tonight after a decent segment in which Kudlow read Article I, section 8 in favor of auditing the Fed.....Kyl (republican Senator AZ)said he would absolutely not vote in favor when in came to the Senate.


Well Mr. Kyl can certainly count on me doing everything in my power to dissuade anyone I know from voting for him next election. What a shill.

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2009-11-20 23:08:36
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No congressman in his/her right mind should support any erosion of the Fed's power and 'autonomy', as its the Fed's ability to underwrite federal deficit spending that lies at the heart of the system that perpetuates the advantage of incumbency.

And therein lies the problem ... collaring the Fed amounts to shifting power from the federal govt back into private hands .... I'm honestly surprised at the level of House support 1207 has received .... unless in the end its a snow job

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2009-11-20 23:59:56
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING GREGG!?!?!?!!!!. I'm gonna have to drop in for a visit.. That is just disgraceful. You back-stabbing establishment scumbag...

Enough is enough.


BTW: You need B.Frank's "Frank" in the picture up above.


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****ing Gregg...from NH no less...the Live Free or Die state...WTF....NH people, RECALL THIS *******!!!


BTW Tienkou, is that your dog? He looks like a nice dog.

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2009-11-21 00:44:18
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Mr. Gregg, we can do this the peaceful, lawful way... or we can do this the HARD way. You answer to US, you imbecile.

Glen Beck better have this guy's crooked face plastered all over the tv screen along with his "comments". Screw the GOP.

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And therein lies the problem ... collaring the Fed amounts to shifting power from the federal govt back into private hands.


Uh, who do you think votes for the board members, and where do these guys come from? The private banking industry.

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No congressman in his/her right mind should support any erosion of the Fed's power and 'autonomy', as its the Fed's ability to underwrite federal deficit spending that lies at the heart of the system that perpetuates the advantage of incumbency.


This was probably the same garbage that was spoonfed over the phone to those who voted "NAY" yesterday.

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I've never been a fan of Gregg. When I watched him waffle on Obama's offer to appoint him secretary of commerce, it confirmed that he was a piece of ****. That was a transparent play by the Obama administration to lock in a supermajority for Ds in the Senate. So freaking obvious. And Gregg waffled on it. **** him. May he rot in hell.
The ******* helped write the TARP bill. As far as people I wish ill on, Gregg's way up on my list.

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et tu Volker?

Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker wrote the House Financial Services Committee early this month that they opposed a provision, backed by Rep. Ron Paul (R., Texas) that would expand the congressional Government Accountability Office’s audits of the Fed. The committee, ignoring the pleas from the two, endorsed the provision Thursday.

file:///Users/apple/Desktop/Greenspan,%20Volcker%20Opposed%20Ron%20Paul%20Audit%20Provision%20-%20Real%20Time%20Economics%20-%20WSJ.webarchive

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2009-11-21 02:37:32
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JUDD GREGG was on CNBC yesterday morning railing against the outrageous cost of health care reform......while indeed a legit concern, isn't this the same hypocrite that pimped so hard to send $700 billion down Wall Street's rat hole (otherwise known as TARP)???? Will someone in NH please take out the trash......

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Somebody doesn't fear the People. Maybe he should be reminded who he works for? Slam his offices with calls and emails. And whatever else you feel is necessary.

There's a poll on NYT website with 95% of voters favoring a full Fed audit.

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Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List JUDD GREGG was on CNBC yesterday morning railing against the outrageous cost of health care reform......while indeed a legit concern, isn't this the same hypocrite that pimped so hard to send $700 billion down Wall Street's rat hole (otherwise known as TARP)????

Gregg Committee Assignments:

* Appropriations
* Budget, Ranking Member
* Health, Education, Labor and Pensions

Judd Gregg'S top 5 Campaign Contributors 2010:

Blue Cross/Blue Shield $15,000
BAE Systems $12,300
Amgen Inc $7,500
Goldman Sachs $7,000
Citigroup Inc $6,000



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Judd Gregg'S top 5 Campaign Contributors 2010:

Blue Cross/Blue Shield $15,000
BAE Systems $12,300
Amgen Inc $7,500
Goldman Sachs $7,000
Citigroup Inc $6,000


Are you kidding me? That's all he got from Goldman?

Talk about a two bit *****.

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2009-11-21 08:18:20
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Yes Bull,
That is Dewey Dog, a first generation Labradoodle.

That picture shows his dewey-tude, he'll be three yrs next month.



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The US Congress has abdicated its role as a governing body.

The most dangerous man is the one with nothing left to lose. Our government is making more of them everyday.
2009-11-21 08:43:37
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